No 2012 Sedan?

[Bernie P.]

I read there's a good chance the Yaris will get a major overhaul for 2014.Perhaps they figured it would be more cost effective to hold off on the sedan until then.I hope so!

[Kal-El]

Originally Posted by Bernie P.

I read there's a good chance the Yaris will get a major overhaul for 2014.Perhaps they figured it would be more cost effective to hold off on the sedan until then.I hope so!

That's highly unlikely as this 2012 is totally redesigned except for the drivetrain and a new one one for 2014 would make that the quickest complete auto redesign in history. Especially when the 2nd gen went 6 years.
Expect the 3rd gen to go 5 years through 2016. What has been speculated, is that Toyota has held out in putting a new drivetrain in this car so that they can put one in at a mid-cycle refresh. Maybe it will finally get at least a 5 speed auto and a more competitive power plant.

[Flipper_1938]

Why do people want a new powerplant? The INZ-FE is a great little motor that has proven itself to be efficient and reliable.

The aparent lack of power is due to the lack-luster engine calibration that toyota has loaded into the ECM to fight anything that could be construed as "run-away-acceleration".

My 2001 Echo had a 1NZFE in it and it felt like it had 25% more power than the current Yaris. Dad's '07 Yaris was faster than my '10.

Even if toyota installed the next generation motor....it would be slow. They are scared of the lawyers.

[Kal-El]

Originally Posted by Flipper_1938

Why do people want a new powerplant? The INZ-FE is a great little motor that has proven itself to be efficient and reliable.

The aparent lack of power is due to the lack-luster engine calibration that toyota has loaded into the ECM to fight anything that could be construed as "run-away-acceleration".

My 2001 Echo had a 1NZFE in it and it felt like it had 25% more power than the current Yaris. Dad's '07 Yaris was faster than my '10.

Even if toyota installed the next generation motor....it would be slow. They are scared of the lawyers.

I don't have much against the current engine. It's a great engine with great reliability but it lacks key improvements being shown by Hyundai and others, such as direct injection. The Accent has 138 HP and gets 40 MPG compared to only 106 HP and 36 MPG for the Yaris.

As far as the liability talk, you're not serious are you? First off, Toyota was cleared of any fault from the unintended acceleration fiasco. It's been proven that it was all driver error, as anyone with a brain knew from the start.

Aside from that, how could Toyota be afraid of a Yaris being "too fast". Huh? We're talking about the least powerful car in the Toyota lineup. A Prius has more power. The average Toyota/Lexus has around 250-300 HP. The Lexus LFA has 552 HP and is good for 202 MPH. Any liability there?

Fact is, Toyota answered the question saying a new engine and transmission at this point would have priced the Yaris beyond what they felt would be competitive. They chose to keep the price as low as possible as most buyers wont even know anything about the engine and transmission. The price is what they see.

[yarisse54]

Okay y'all. You know the drill. Toyota apparently retooled the robots for the 2012 Camry production line, so they could call the 2012 Camry "all new".

Why doesn't Toyota retool the robots for the 2012 Yaris sedan production line to bring us a 2014 Yaris sedan AND coupe?

Now what about the 2014 Yaris sedan? Some of us LOVE the idea of having a trunk, but don't want to be caught dead in a Corolla.

So here is my rendering of the 2014 Yaris LE Sedan (with parts retooled from the 2012 Yaris HB) and a 2014 Yaris SE Coupe for those who want a 2-door Yaris, but hate the hatchback design (kinda like a first generation Toyota ECHO 2-door).

What do you think? I think I am on to something here.