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Old 10-11-2011, 08:41 PM   #1
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The reason the "vast majority" in the states are automatics is because Americans are lazy.
That'd be a great theory if the same wasn't happening in a lot of other countries!

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We've had at least five fords that had the auto trans fall out under 100,000 miles. And this is with respectable adults driving (not being dogged out).
Seriously? You're comparing Ford transmissions with that of Toyota? Ford can't make a good transmission, manual or otherwise. I drove two brand new Fusions a few weeks back and both were horrible.

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Those who think the manual transmission is a thing of the past will meet their end before the manual trans does.
Right, you've really convinced me with that one! Anyone who still drives a 1994 truck is the one clinging on to the past!

Do you still own your old 8-track cassettes as well?!?
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Old 10-11-2011, 09:28 PM   #2
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That'd be a great theory if the same wasn't happening in a lot of other countries!



Seriously? You're comparing Ford transmissions with that of Toyota? Ford can't make a good transmission, manual or otherwise. I drove two brand new Fusions a few weeks back and both were horrible.



Right, you've really convinced me with that one! Anyone who still drives a 1994 truck is the one clinging on to the past!

Do you still own your old 8-track cassettes as well?!?
1) Let's see empirical data in favor of your claim.

2) My comment about fords was relating to the statements regarding manual transmissions being phazed out.

3) I bet I'm younger than you. What's an 8-track (rhetorical, predecessor to standard tape deck)? My 94 Toyota truck runs like a top, has 275,000 miles on it. The value to sell is less than the value it is to me keeping it. It still does great in snow and mud and has a lot of utility. Gearbox is great, lowrange is great, high range is great. I'm not in a position to buy a new truck either, much less a newer Toyota 4x4. They hold their value incredibly well, especially in a manual transmission because the demand is much greater than supply in 4x4 manual Toyota trucks. Why would I not keep a vehicle that I know the history of for most of its life?
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Old 10-11-2011, 09:51 PM   #3
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Anyone who still drives a 1994 truck is the one clinging on to the past!
You don't believe that now do you?

My Wrangler is a '97 (not too far from '94) and I'll be driving that thing 'til it won't drive anymore. And yes, it's a manual. It's got another 10, 15 maybe 20 years on it.
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Old 10-11-2011, 10:00 PM   #4
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You don't believe that now do you?

My Wrangler is a '97 (not too far from '94) and I'll be driving that thing 'til it won't drive anymore. And yes, it's a manual. It's got another 10, 15 maybe 20 years on it.
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That'd be a great theory if the same wasn't happening in a lot of other countries!



Seriously? You're comparing Ford transmissions with that of Toyota? Ford can't make a good transmission, manual or otherwise. I drove two brand new Fusions a few weeks back and both were horrible.



Right, you've really convinced me with that one! Anyone who still drives a 1994 truck is the one clinging on to the past!

Do you still own your old 8-track cassettes as well?!?
....but it might be happening in those other countries for a different reason...doesn't mean that laziness isn't the reason in the U.S.
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