Scion FR-S (FT86)

[silver_echo]

They took an EJ20 motor, turned the intake manifold 180 degrees, and moved the filter to the top. Just don't understand why the oil filter needed to be on top. I hate top mounted oil filters.

[TOUGEghost]

I was originally thinking about trading in my Yaris for one when it comes out. I really want to like it but the price and weight are getting a bit too high. I know it's not going to happen, but if the price was under $20K (like Toyota originally hinted it would be) and weight under 2500 I would be able to overlook the fact that it has a difficult to work on boxer motor and I would be all over it. With the price climbing over $25k there are other cars out there I would buy first. For now I want to wait and see how well it actually does once it's released and what kind of aftermarket support it receives. It has an awful lot of hype to live up to.

[ilikerice]

Originally Posted by TOUGEghost

I was originally thinking about trading in my Yaris for one when it comes out. I really want to like it but the price and weight are getting a bit too high. I know it's not going to happen, but if the price was under $20K (like Toyota originally hinted it would be) and weight under 2500 I would be able to overlook the fact that it has a difficult to work on boxer motor and I would be all over it. With the price climbing over $25k there are other cars out there I would buy first. For now I want to wait and see how well it actually does once it's released and what kind of aftermarket support it receives. It has an awful lot of hype to live up to.

I agree 100%.. I will wait a year or 2 after its been out, see what kinda issues it gets and either buy new when its been 2 years, or buy used for under 20k. I want this car to be amazing. But time will tell

[thepartsmancometh]

Originally Posted by silver_echo

They took an EJ20 motor, turned the intake manifold 180 degrees, and moved the filter to the top. Just don't understand why the oil filter needed to be on top. I hate top mounted oil filters.

Its not an EJ20. Its part of the new line of Subie motors (the F Series - I think this one is the FA20). I'll stick with my EJ255 lol

I too hate top mount oil filters! Ive changed a bunch of 4runners and tacomas like this. grrrrrrr.


I do like the forward facing manifold and air box location. cool idea.

In response to the original post, I wouldn't replace either of my cars with this, but would buy it as a toy if I was rich (I'm not ) I need something to drive in 12 inches of snow, hence the WRX and the yaris is our commuter car.

[Yaristeve]

Originally Posted by thepartsmancometh

I too hate top mount oil filters! Ive changed a bunch of 4runners and tacomas like this. grrrrrrr.

From the picture, it looks like Subaru thought about (and solved) the problem; the filter looks like it is mounted inside a cup shaped mount so the oil in the can will be caught and drain into the engine.

Like ilikerice, I plan to buy a new one after a couple of model years pass so t that Toyota can work out any bugs and hopefully, all the inevitable dealer gouging will be over.