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Old 02-01-2012, 12:29 AM   #1
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Always defensive driving and alert for others.

and stay off your cell phones.
Here is an interesting fact that I learned while I was station in Korea: There are roughly, at least there was at the turn of the century, 12 million folks residing in Seoul. On their New Year's Eve the statistics, not sure how they came up with them, estimated that over 10 million of the folks were on the roads driving while intoxicated. Not necessarily drunk, but still inebriated. Even with this they have less issues with accidents then we have in our cities in the US even when folks are sober. The primary reason for this? They are raised to drive offensively rather than defensively. I lean more towards driving offensively personally and it has served me well in the 20 years I have been driving. This is both in autos and on motorcycles as I tested for my motorcycle license 6 months after my auto license (15 yrs old and then right after turning 16).

I completely agree with you on the mobile phone part. I have attempted to reduce my guilt on this one by using Voice-to-Text functionality.


As for the headlights part I trained myself years ago to always turn my headlights on as soon as my motor has been started and then off just as I exit.

I wish that I could think of an idiot thing that our car does, but right now coming up empty.

Then again I have the sedan. I can say something that I am entirely perplexed on which would be why the sedan doesn't have a driver's side glove box and the hatch does? I can only hazard to guess that it was an engineering thing, but one of the folks over at MI just cut into his dash to reveal plenty of space in front of the steering wheel on the sedan to accommodate another glove box.
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Old 02-01-2012, 06:16 AM   #2
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Here is an interesting fact that I learned while I was station in Korea: There are roughly, at least there was at the turn of the century, 12 million folks residing in Seoul. On their New Year's Eve the statistics, not sure how they came up with them, estimated that over 10 million of the folks were on the roads driving while intoxicated. Not necessarily drunk, but still inebriated. Even with this they have less issues with accidents then we have in our cities in the US even when folks are sober. The primary reason for this? They are raised to drive offensively rather than defensively. I lean more towards driving offensively personally and it has served me well in the 20 years I have been driving. This is both in autos and on motorcycles as I tested for my motorcycle license 6 months after my auto license (15 yrs old and then right after turning 16).

I completely agree with you on the mobile phone part. I have attempted to reduce my guilt on this one by using Voice-to-Text functionality.


As for the headlights part I trained myself years ago to always turn my headlights on as soon as my motor has been started and then off just as I exit.

I wish that I could think of an idiot thing that our car does, but right now coming up empty.

Then again I have the sedan. I can say something that I am entirely perplexed on which would be why the sedan doesn't have a driver's side glove box and the hatch does? I can only hazard to guess that it was an engineering thing, but one of the folks over at MI just cut into his dash to reveal plenty of space in front of the steering wheel on the sedan to accommodate another glove box.
Do you think a defensive driver was the cause of this accident?

Id be willing to bet it was an offensive one.

http://www.documentingreality.com/fo...cut-half-9664/
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Old 02-01-2012, 11:52 AM   #3
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Do you think a defensive driver was the cause of this accident?

Id be willing to bet it was an offensive one.

http://www.documentingreality.com/fo...cut-half-9664/
Both offensive and defensive driving techniques can be the cause of accidents. I am just raising the point that offensive style has netted far less accidents in many cultures over ours. Also to raise a point it would appears that either the loose laws in regards to requiring driver's education or not as well as quite possibly poor DE schools is prevalent in many states at least to my recollection compared to 20 years ago when I first began driving. It cannot be denied either that there are much more distractions compared to then as well so I will give today's society that much. Back then you might only be distracted by fumbling through cassette tapes to find the right 2 Live Crew or Aerosmith album or checkin out the sweetness walking down the sidewalk.
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Old 02-01-2012, 12:48 PM   #4
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[QUOTE=fnkngrv;626494]Here is an interesting fact that I learned while I was station in Korea: There are roughly, at least there was at the turn of the century, 12 million folks residing in Seoul. On their New Year's Eve the statistics, not sure how they came up with them, estimated that over 10 million of the folks were on the roads driving while intoxicated. Not necessarily drunk, but still inebriated. Even with this they have less issues with accidents then we have in our cities in the US even when folks are sober. The primary reason for this? They are raised to drive offensively rather than defensively. I lean more towards driving offensively personally and it has served me well in the 20 years I have been driving. This is both in autos and on motorcycles as I tested for my motorcycle license 6 months after my auto license (15 yrs old and then right after turning 16).
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That is very interesting stats. I visited Seoul and Ho Chi Min for a couple weeks, and I can probably say that is correct. There are more scooters then people and cars on the streets. When I took a taxi, if the guy in front of you hasnt let off the brakes withing .0001 of a sec when the light turns green, people will lay on the horn to wake you up. There was also no lanes either. very intersting.. although, this was about 6 years ago, things may have changed.

My teen years I was an agressive driver, but I now am completely defensive. I keep my aggressivness at the track and autocross.
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Old 02-01-2012, 12:55 PM   #5
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I keep my aggressivness at the track and autocross.

You would have to agree however there is a difference between offensive and aggressive driving no?


But, anyway, I digress as this is kind of hijacking the thread now.
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