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Old 04-13-2012, 07:09 PM   #1
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there is no such thing as privacy anywhere, no matter what. That is the first thing everyone must realize.

Secondly, there never was anything such as privacy on the internet. There never will be. Any time you enter something into a browser, it sends it to another computer. Thus no more privacy. Google, Apple and other insanely large businesses have the capacity to save everything anyone ever does on the web, all the time every time. So every browser you use will have every browsing session you have ever had stored somewhere. Google especially is known for buying server farms by the acre, but they are not the only one. They also have their own server architecture, firmware, and software to access it all as quickly as possible.

The only way to have privacy on the internet is to never use the internet. And in reality that is not enough, because all yellow pages and almost all directories in paper have an internet version as well.

The time has come for you to be comfortable and happy for everyone to know everything about you, because that will be the reality sooner rather than later.
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Old 04-13-2012, 07:40 PM   #2
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there is no such thing as privacy anywhere, no matter what. That is the first thing everyone must realize.

Secondly, there never was anything such as privacy on the internet. There never will be. Any time you enter something into a browser, it sends it to another computer. Thus no more privacy. Google, Apple and other insanely large businesses have the capacity to save everything anyone ever does on the web, all the time every time. So every browser you use will have every browsing session you have ever had stored somewhere. Google especially is known for buying server farms by the acre, but they are not the only one. They also have their own server architecture, firmware, and software to access it all as quickly as possible.

The only way to have privacy on the internet is to never use the internet. And in reality that is not enough, because all yellow pages and almost all directories in paper have an internet version as well.

The time has come for you to be comfortable and happy for everyone to know everything about you, because that will be the reality sooner rather than later.
The problem is that googe has steped a bit over the line of not informing the consumer what their sofware is doning.

Granted, there have always been spyware/trojan programs but, with google chrome, (among some others) this has gone mainsteam big time. It is no longer a pactice of small dishonest, often freeware software peddlers.
Also, even when you uninstall chrome, the spyware remains. At least I'm computer savy so, I was able to track it down and manualy delete the files and prevent from from running any fraction of it I could not delete.
However what about those who are not as computer savy?
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The problem is that googe has steped a bit over the line of not informing the consumer what their sofware is doning.

Granted, there have always been spyware/trojan programs but, with google chrome, (among some others) this has gone mainsteam big time. It is no longer a pactice of small dishonest, often freeware software peddlers.
Also, even when you uninstall chrome, the spyware remains. At least I'm computer savy so, I was able to track it down and manualy delete the files and prevent from from running any fraction of it I could not delete.
However what about those who are not as computer savy?
it doesn't matter? 90% of computer use is the net. and again, you are labeling it wrong. spyware & trojans render computers dead and unusable. nothing you download that is suppose to come with chrome falls into that category. unless you really did download it from somewhere you should not of, you saw nothing anyone else would call spyware or trojans.
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it doesn't matter? 90% of computer use is the net. and again, you are labeling it wrong. spyware & trojans render computers dead and unusable. nothing you download that is suppose to come with chrome falls into that category. unless you really did download it from somewhere you should not of, you saw nothing anyone else would call spyware or trojans.
Tojans and spyware "render computers dead and unusable."????
You are seriously misinformed!!!!!

For one thing, trojan/spyware software by definition works in the background without the victim being aware of it.
It is usually a "call home" type of malicious software that gives no obvious signs to the computer user.

This is also true of many viruses! By definition, a computer virus is any program that is installed without the uses permission that cause any malicious activity and can be passed on to others. A virus can still leave the compuer mostly usable and can often be undetectable for the most part.
Also, a virus can also be a trojan with no obvious signs.


Only the most serious viruses can render a computer dead and/or unusable.

BTW, also by definition, spyware is a trojan!

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Tojans and spyware "render computers dead and unusable."????
You are seriously misinformed!!!!!

For one thing, trojan/spyware software by definition works in the background without the victim being aware of it.
It is usually a "call home" type of malicious software that gives no obvious signs to the computer user.

This is also true of many viruses! By definition, a computer virus is any program that is installed without the uses permission that cause any malicious activity and can be passed on to others. A virus can still leave the compuer mostly usable and can often be undetectable for the most part.
Also, a virus can also be a trojan with no obvious signs.


Only the most serious viruses can render a computer dead and/or unusable.

BTW, also by definition, spyware is a trojan!
that's where i disagree, show me a computer that has been co-opted by a botnet, or has a keylogger or other such malicious software that you'd actually want to use? That's unusable by me.

But you want to rant and rave and go insane about something the rest of the tech world simply says, "meh," to, be my guest. I can't wait to see your reaction when we join london and europe in video recording every mm of the entire nation. The future is coming fast, privacy was never meant to actually exist beyond your physical living space, and now it probably won't exist their either.
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