Tamago's guide to ultimate yaris handling

[eTiMaGo]

wow hadn't read this thread in a while :)

1) I think this would apply to both, but I'm quite sure he meant the hatchback

2) At the time of writing there was really only the TRD rear swaybar. UR offers swaybars now in two thicknesses, The thicker one will have a stronger effect and induce more oversteer.

3) front strut bars are a bit of a controversial topic. Some say that because the shock tower are more or less directly connected to the firewall, there's no point in adding a bar. But some say that at higher cornering speeds (i.e. on track or autocross), you can feel a difference.

So in the end, I think it depends if you plan to seriously race the car or not? If it's to enjoy a spirited drive, you should be fine with the smaller swaybar and no strut bar, as you'd probably never push the car to the limits of handling on a public road (at least I hope not)

[allyart]

Originally Posted by eTiMaGo

wow hadn't read this thread in a while :)

1) I think this would apply to both, but I'm quite sure he meant the hatchback

2) At the time of writing there was really only the TRD rear swaybar. UR offers swaybars now in two thicknesses, The thicker one will have a stronger effect and induce more oversteer.

3) front strut bars are a bit of a controversial topic. Some say that because the shock tower are more or less directly connected to the firewall, there's no point in adding a bar. But some say that at higher cornering speeds (i.e. on track or autocross), you can feel a difference.

So in the end, I think it depends if you plan to seriously race the car or not? If it's to enjoy a spirited drive, you should be fine with the smaller swaybar and no strut bar, as you'd probably never push the car to the limits of handling on a public road (at least I hope not)

ahh i got it, thanks for the explanation

for now i just want to enjoy a spirited drive, so i will just buy the smaller swaybar. but i have to say, having a strutbar is kinda cool though

[Viperoni]

Originally Posted by eTiMaGo

3) front strut bars are a bit of a controversial topic. Some say that because the shock tower are more or less directly connected to the firewall, there's no point in adding a bar. But some say that at higher cornering speeds (i.e. on track or autocross), you can feel a difference.

In my echo, and on my old slicks, in bumpy corners, I absolutely felt a difference with the strut bar. The front end gripped while the rear didn't, I had oversteer in a couple corners while I was getting used to it, almost got in trouble.

[Tamago]

Originally Posted by Viperoni

In my echo, and on my old slicks, in bumpy corners, I absolutely felt a difference with the strut bar. The front end gripped while the rear didn't, I had oversteer in a couple corners while I was getting used to it, almost got in trouble.

what were your tire pressures? (this has a lot more to do with your issue than any suspension component, especially on R comps)