Civic is dead. Long live Yaris!

[bronsin]

Hold off because its the end of the model year. I got 0% financing for 5 years on my 09. Deals are coming be patient. You should have a killer deal. If not walk away. Go at the end of the month when dealerws are making quotas.

Look at the Mazda 2. If they have a better deal...go for it. Toyotas are having water pumps fail. Toyota might be going in the toilet after all thee years. Mazda is just as good. Fit too expensive. Versa just plain sucks...

Chevy is coming out with the Spark a three cylinder 1200cc. Check it out. Made in S korea.

[Astroman]

Originally Posted by bronsin

Toyotas are having water pumps fail. Toyota might be going in the toilet after all thee years.

A extremely large majority of toyotas to not have this problem. A few here and there doesn't mean the brand is going in the toilet.

[muffin_top]

Originally Posted by Astroman

A extremely large majority of toyotas to not have this problem. A few here and there doesn't mean the brand is going in the toilet.

A water pump failure is hardly a huge expense and gives plenty of warning when it does take a dump.

I wouldn't buy any Mazda because it's basically kissing cousins to many Ford models. They just have goofy repair procedures, discontinue parts quickly after models end and are generally more expensive to repair. For instance, they have a repair bulletin for adjusting front camber that involves loosening the engine cradle, grinding on mounting points of various suspension components with a die grinder and then tightening back up. If its still out, loosen, grind, tighten and the try again.. Yeah, no thanks.

[junorico24]

Originally Posted by muffin_top

A water pump failure is hardly a huge expense and gives plenty of warning when it does take a dump.

I wouldn't buy any Mazda because it's basically kissing cousins to many Ford models. They just have goofy repair procedures, discontinue parts quickly after models end and are generally more expensive to repair. For instance, they have a repair bulletin for adjusting front camber that involves loosening the engine cradle, grinding on mounting points of various suspension components with a die grinder and then tightening back up. If its still out, loosen, grind, tighten and the try again.. Yeah, no thanks.

Swift Gti or Honda Civic Eg?