Yaris Sedan Deadening and Sound system upgrade

[Alien Mantis]

I must say, you guys have really been doing some amazing stuff.
I had to catch up on this whole thread, took me awhile to read it all.

I see you have been working on so many of the finer details.
I was surprised to see Derick was running those small sub drivers. ( Those i6SW )
I thought is was also interesting to see you guys playing around with tweeter mounting angles in the A pillars and bouncing it off the windsheild. I was never a fan of aiming tweeters at the listener. I'm a fan of off-axis tweets. Tweets can be harsh anyway, why aim them at your face!

SQ: you are definately pro-level. Gratz on your work so far. I see about 4 or 5 of you guys on here that really take it to the next level. That's your "thing". I respect that.
You know me, I appreciate hi quality audio but never saw the sense in spending alot of money on a really high end car audio system, but if that's your hobby, nothing wrong with it.
After I did that modest system in my Yaris, I have been listening to it and living with it since you last seen me on here. I am about to make a few changes to it. It has been great, and I have been enjoying it, but it has a few minor issues that have been bugging me, and I will try to address them.
I am on step 3 and you guys are on step 1,249.

You guys put so much work into your systems. I see you are still fans of the HAT stuff.

SQ is going to laugh at me: one of the changes I am going to make to my system is I am ready to ditch that TypeR 10" sub in the slot-ported box. For my type of music, it just doesn't nail it. If I listened to rap, jazz, techno, hip-hop, or country... it would be okay. But it isn't really cut out to play the tight fast beats of power/prog metal.
As SQ once said, the TypeR is an SPL pig. I never forgot that. And you were right. I still say the TypeR is a great sub. I'm sure my box is more to blame than the sub itself. I could put a pair of TypeR tens in a sealed box and be happy with them. But they take alot of AMP to push them. They are power hungry, especially the new ones.
My other issue is ROAD NOISE. My Yaris is just too noisy. So I am going to try and do some sound deadening. Nothing fancy, just something that will help a little bit.
I know you guys are experts on this subject, so feel free to offer a suggestion or two. I would appreciate it.

Keep up the good work guys. I came back here just to see if you guys had actually FINISHED your cars, but as expected, you are still tweaking away on them! Always something else to do. Always a new trick, or a new piece of hardware huh.

SO, since I left, what has been the biggest challenge with your systems?
What is your favorite amps now? How much farther do you need to take your system to get them to where you want them to be?
Derick, what is YOUR goal? Are you going to compete with your Yaris?

[Alien Mantis]

I'm not a fan of that sub box on the front passenger floor.

I know exactly what you are trying to do, but that is a huge compromise.

You know how most people do it, they just overpower you with BASS so you can't really tell what direction it's coming from.
You guys are so focused on creating the perfect "sound stage".
In a large open room, it's pretty straightforward. In a car... it's a whole different story.
I wouldn't even want to try and tackle it.
But I guess that's the whole challenge of car audio SQ competition, isn't it.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by Alien Mantis

SO, since I left, what has been the biggest challenge with your systems?
What is your favorite amps now? How much farther do you need to take your system to get them to where you want them to be?
Derick, what is YOUR goal? Are you going to compete with your Yaris?

Thanks AM,

Challenge... Learning, Listening, Tuning, Understanding, Time, Money and Tools!

Favorite amp?... My old Premier (Pioneer) amp 400 watts RMS directly into my 6.5" woofer it's amazing,

but The Gold is for the Image Dynamics for the Mid-Bass (HAT L6's) at 175 watts x 2, in some songs I turn off the Sub just to show off, almost no change in the music, and people go AAAGGGHHHHH

How much further?... If I had the time and money mmm you wouldn't believe it! but reality... I would like to finish every detail, to make everything look neat!

Goals? my goals are all left behind, the more I learn and the more I'm getting from my system new Goals start to show up, It's like the never ending story.

Compete? ... you know I have many invitations, (PA, Canada, Main, etc) I would love to go, not just for competing and see where I'm, but to learn from others.

All my SQ local friends have a big respect for the little Yaris, and they look for my advice, that makes me feel good too.

Ironically the Yaris turned into a very good platform for my system, some times I dream "if I could buy any car to install a SQ system and improve what I have now!" .... I get good PLDs (9-inches) with my Mids, Tweeters are far way from me, off-axis, left tweeter is 48" away from my left ear, The Sub up front fits perfectly and I can still have a passenger, and the Lows (Mid-Bass) in the doors work ok, would like to have them further up but like you said, in a car everything it's a challenge.

I love my yaris, honestly drives so good, looks good and sounds good, I would be heart broken if I had to let it go for other car.


I'm not a fan of that sub box on the front passenger floor.
The single i6SW is not on all the floor is took to the center console leaving enough space for passenger, the 2nd i6SW is just an experiment, but I'm very pleased with only one i6SW, lately I've been playing with other woofers, and even the IDQ12 in 1cf sealed box! against the i6SW and at the end of the day, I just go back to the i6SW... Sound Quality and overall performance, any music... just throw at it and without any adjustments the system will play it beautiful. Off course this is not a SPL system so don't expect to blow your ears! or to be one of the guys that you can tell his coming blocks away!

I know exactly what you are trying to do, but that is a huge compromise.
Please expand... to me it's all about a natural sound-stage

You know how most people do it, they just overpower you with BASS so you can't really tell what direction it's coming from.
I know! As far as of today all systems I've heard like that hurt my ears and take away the beautiful letters "SQ" from my equation and no matter what... I still can tell where it's coming from "The Back"

You guys are so focused on creating the perfect "sound stage".
YES! YES! YES!

In a large open room, it's pretty straightforward. In a car... it's a whole different story.
Agree 110%

I wouldn't even want to try and tackle it.

But I guess that's the whole challenge of car audio SQ competition, isn't it.
YES! but in my case not for competition, just for pure satisfaction and joy!
When I listen to my system I forget about commuting, problems, traffic, mortgage, Milk, meetings, news, etc, etc.

Welcome back! AM and don't forget about a layer of MLV to block the road noise. Now you can buy at H.D. online at a good price!

D.