Allan Phillips Racing ECU

[chaditotx]

I could understand $1500 but 2k is high. You figure an AEM and a Boomslang will run you $2800 anyway. I'd rather have something designed solely for Toyota ECM's if you know what I mean. It would be nice to tune for the mods I have, and then have the flexibility to move on to a turbo or supercharger and keep the same plug and play set up and learn the software in the meantime. I'd almost bet I could squeeze another 20-25 horses out of the stock motor with bolt ons and some agressive tuning, pulling that rev limiter to 8k would be interesting NA. I'm not sure if the cams would breath well there though. I bet I could probably do that with a couple Weber side draft carbs too... but carb+boost is sloppy IMO.

[fnkngrv]

Originally Posted by chaditotx

I could understand $1500 but 2k is high. You figure an AEM and a Boomslang will run you $2800 anyway. I'd rather have something designed solely for Toyota ECM's if you know what I mean. It would be nice to tune for the mods I have, and then have the flexibility to move on to a turbo or supercharger and keep the same plug and play set up and learn the software in the meantime. I'd almost bet I could squeeze another 20-25 horses out of the stock motor with bolt ons and some agressive tuning, pulling that rev limiter to 8k would be interesting NA. I'm not sure if the cams would breath well there though. I bet I could probably do that with a couple Weber side draft carbs too... but carb+boost is sloppy IMO.

Which AEM are you talking about using? If you are talking about a piggyback then it would be much cheaper. If you are taking the EMS series I think that I have seen the vers 3 and 4 for $1800+. I am not sure what MI would be able to do for a price because personally I won't ever purchase an AEM product again since I have had bad luck with them. I am hesitant to pick up a Boomslang either. As for trying to squeeze more power out of the stock setup unless mistaken there have been some folks that have gone that route and netted only around 10/15hp. Jason has bumped his limiter to the 8K and has been running it just fine apparently. Adding those few bolt-ons could get you to the 20/25 most likely, but when you spend the money you will to get that then in some ways unless you are building toward a robust setup it would be a waste of money in comparison to going FI with even low boost. Taking a couple days (literally) and researching on here and even becoming a member and searching on microimageonline.com will show you all of the leg work already done over the last 6 years. If you are serious about this stuff then it is worth your time.

[packetrace]

Originally Posted by fnkngrv

Which AEM are you talking about using? If you are talking about a piggyback then it would be much cheaper. If you are taking the EMS series I think that I have seen the vers 3 and 4 for $1800+. I am not sure what MI would be able to do for a price because personally I won't ever purchase an AEM product again since I have had bad luck with them. I am hesitant to pick up a Boomslang either. As for trying to squeeze more power out of the stock setup unless mistaken there have been some folks that have gone that route and netted only around 10/15hp. Jason has bumped his limiter to the 8K and has been running it just fine apparently. Adding those few bolt-ons could get you to the 20/25 most likely, but when you spend the money you will to get that then in some ways unless you are building toward a robust setup it would be a waste of money in comparison to going FE with even low boost. Taking a couple days (literally) and researching on here and even becoming a member and searching on microimageonline.com will show you all of the leg work already done over the last 6 years. If you are serious about this stuff then it is worth your time.

MI is actually puting together a PNP aem ems....the aem ecu would control everything including vvti....and the stock ecu would control the idle control, drive by wire tb...and other small stuff...i think this is what he sys would cost 2800....but Garm did not told me any price...well I have not asked...

[chaditotx]

Originally Posted by fnkngrv

Which AEM are you talking about using? If you are talking about a piggyback then it would be much cheaper. If you are taking the EMS series I think that I have seen the vers 3 and 4 for $1800+. I am not sure what MI would be able to do for a price because personally I won't ever purchase an AEM product again since I have had bad luck with them. I am hesitant to pick up a Boomslang either. As for trying to squeeze more power out of the stock setup unless mistaken there have been some folks that have gone that route and netted only around 10/15hp. Jason has bumped his limiter to the 8K and has been running it just fine apparently. Adding those few bolt-ons could get you to the 20/25 most likely, but when you spend the money you will to get that then in some ways unless you are building toward a robust setup it would be a waste of money in comparison to going FE with even low boost. Taking a couple days (literally) and researching on here and even becoming a member and searching on microimageonline.com will show you all of the leg work already done over the last 6 years. If you are serious about this stuff then it is worth your time.

Absolutely. I will be doing the forged or hypereutectic rods and pistons, and better valve springs for sure.... I am glad someone ELSE (not me for a change) found out that the stock upper end couldn't handle much more with FI... I've been doing tons of reading on this site... I applaud you pioneers out there! I'll be getting on the MI forum too, thank you for the suggestion.
Looking for something with a lot of adjustability really. Toyota always seems to have been VERY conservative and erring on the side of caution with their EFI programming. Im looking to get another motor within the next few months and start building it on the bench. They are cheap enough... and if I manage to go slow enough she won't even notice the $ flying out the window. Right?

Great work on that intake man! It's beautiful. I was going to get my brother-in-laws company to build me one at http://www.bmcrace.com/ (my nephew does the welding) But they are super busy running the shop and not giving discounted intakes to family... Acutally didn't ask them yet.. I just know they are swamped.

Not a big fan of AEM either.... good intakes tho.