Ripped off at the pump ?

[bronsin]

Its not so much the price of gas. Its the people who drive cars and trucks that get ~20 mpg that I cant believe.

Foreign governments, the oil companies, and our government have put a gun to our heads and the publics response is

Go ahead blow my brains out!

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by bronsin

Its not so much the price of gas. Its the people who drive cars and trucks that get ~20 mpg that I cant believe.

Foreign governments, the oil companies, and our government have put a gun to our heads and the publics response is

Go ahead blow my brains out!

Yea, pretty much. One will especially be able to say that when Obama gets re-elected. I say when because the bounce since Clinton's speech at the DNC seems to be holding. If I hadn't been straddling two states (part of my life in each) when the 2008 election rolled around, I would have voted for him. I now agree with him on some things, and disagree with him on most. However, the choice in 2012 is simple and it has nothing to do with the content of any issue. The president only has to do one thing before taking office.....SWEAR TO UPHOLD THE U.S. CONSTITUTION. He is the only U.S. president ever to unilaterally disregard the constitution with an action after admitting---the words coming out of his own mouth---that he didn't have the authority to make the change he wanted. He supports the Dream Act and if congress passed it people might not like it but it would still be properly codified law until challenged by others and overturned by the SCOTUS. Obama admitted that this is something that congress needed to pass, that he didn't have authority to act on any of it alone.....then he later enacts the 'Mini Dream Act' as an executive order. His support should have immediately dropped to zero after this. IMHO it isn't moral to support the re-election of a president who now essentially uses the constitution as toilet paper. I've changed the focus of the trip I'm about to take because if Obama wins, my plan is to never again visit any state that goes majority Obama in the 2012 election and therefore will cast their electoral votes for him. Such states don't deserve my tourism and tax dollars. I've been amazed that citizens aren't outraged about this. He's subject to constitutional checks and balances. He's the President of a constitutional republic, he isn't a king. Again, it has nothing to do with what the issue is, just his lack of respect for the one document he has sworn to uphold. A few days ago I saw Ben Stein in a group discussion on one of the financial channels. Finally, someone seemed as outraged as I am about this. He referred to Obama's base as his "constitution ripping up base".

I don't understand the 20 MPG car thing either. If you have 10 dollars or 10 million dollars in the bank or in a brokerage account why would you want to hand one cent more of it to a gas station than you have to?

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by nookandcrannycar

Yea, pretty much. One will especially be able to say that when Obama gets re-elected. I say when because the bounce since Clinton's speech at the DNC seems to be holding. If I hadn't been straddling two states (part of my life in each) when the 2008 election rolled around, I would have voted for him. I now agree with him on some things, and disagree with him on most. However, the choice in 2012 is simple and it has nothing to do with the content of any issue. The president only has to do one thing before taking office.....SWEAR TO UPHOLD THE U.S. CONSTITUTION. He is the only U.S. president ever to unilaterally disregard the constitution with an action after admitting---the words coming out of his own mouth---that he didn't have the authority to make the change he wanted. He supports the Dream Act and if congress passed it people might not like it but it would still be properly codified law until challenged by others and overturned by the SCOTUS. Obama admitted that this is something that congress needed to pass, that he didn't have authority to act on any of it alone.....then he later enacts the 'Mini Dream Act' as an executive order. His support should have immediately dropped to zero after this. IMHO it isn't moral to support the re-election of a president who now essentially uses the constitution as toilet paper. I've changed the focus of the trip I'm about to take because if Obama wins, my plan is to never again visit any state that goes majority Obama in the 2012 election and therefore will cast their electoral votes for him. Such states don't deserve my tourism and tax dollars. I've been amazed that citizens aren't outraged about this. He's subject to constitutional checks and balances. He's the President of a constitutional republic, he isn't a king. Again, it has nothing to do with what the issue is, just his lack of respect for the one document he has sworn to uphold. A few days ago I saw Ben Stein in a group discussion on one of the financial channels. Finally, someone seemed as outraged as I am about this. He referred to Obama's base as his "constitution ripping up base".

I don't understand the 20 MPG car thing either. If you have 10 dollars or 10 million dollars in the bank or in a brokerage account why would you want to hand one cent more of it to a gas station than you have to?

The only exceptions I'll make to this are California, as I still have personal belongings there and most of my family is there....New Mexico -- that I have to drive through to efficiently get to California (but i'll try not to buy gas or food).....and any request to go to one of these 'Obama' states made by my little cousin re a family vacation. In the 80s The O'Malley family did something re the Dodgers that teed me off and I told my friends from that moment on I'm not going to be directly responsible for putting another dollar in the pocket of an O'Malley. I didn't set foot in Dodger Stadium again until 2007....after they had sold out to Fox.