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[bronsin]

Outstanding! I couldnt have said it better myself!

This is big business giving us expensive "solutions" to problems that dont exist. Naturally, they make huge profits from these expensive gimmicks like electric windows, central locking power mirrors (Ive had to adjust my non adjustable mirrors maybe three times in five years) and auto matic transmissions.

My 2001 Toyota ECHO was $13,100 out the door. Whats a 2014 Yaris going for these days? 20 grand?

Oh and my 1980 Subaru Hatchback was $4600 tax and everything. Tell me you wouldnt drive a brand new one of those for $4600 if you could get it.

[roxy1]

Originally Posted by bronsin

My 2001 Toyota ECHO was $13,100 out the door. Whats a 2014 Yaris going for these days? 20 grand?
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my 2014 was $15100 out the door. infinitely safer, quieter, and more stable. anyone paying $20K OTD for a Yaris needs to look themselves in the mirror and slap themselves...............HARD.

[JustPassinThru]

Originally Posted by roxy1

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my 2014 was $15100 out the door. infinitely safer, quieter, and more stable. anyone paying $20K OTD for a Yaris needs to look themselves in the mirror and slap themselves...............HARD.

At $20,000 the Yaris doesn't make sense.

I'd considered, briefly, that smaller Prius derivative. $24,000. The gee-whiz technology was seductive; but I ran the numbers, and on gasoline savings alone, using $3.75 a gallon...I'd be about 90,000 miles breaking even.

If the Yaris had been priced to my wants at $20,000 - I'd have bought the other.

My stripper 2012 was $14,500 - almost the exact same price as my loaded 2009. The 2009 had everything - EXCEPT an auto transmission. The 2012 had ONLY the auto.

I'm okay with it. "Stripper" today is quite different than "stripper" 20 years ago. I have a 1996 Tercel stripper in the driveway to remind me of that.

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by JustPassinThru

I'd considered, briefly, that smaller Prius derivative. $24,000. The gee-whiz technology was seductive; but I ran the numbers, and on gasoline savings alone, using $3.75 a gallon...I'd be about 90,000 miles breaking even

The Prius C Four is $23,360 MSRP ( + the $810 destination = same as a Yaris), but the Prius C One is $19,080 MSRP (+ the destination charge). A sales tax difference (from the Yaris) would be another difference.

[bronsin]

Originally Posted by roxy1

???????

my 2014 was $15100 out the door. infinitely safer, quieter, and more stable. anyone paying $20K OTD for a Yaris needs to look themselves in the mirror and slap themselves...............HARD.

I live in NJ and the ones I have seen for sale on dealer lots (and there arent many) are around $16.5 before tax. Some are more.

I always include the tax when shopping for a car.

[roxy1]

Originally Posted by bronsin

I live in NJ and the ones I have seen for sale on dealer lots (and there arent many) are around $16.5 before tax. Some are more.

I always include the tax when shopping for a car.

yes, out the door includes tax

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by bronsin

This is big business giving us expensive "solutions" to problems that dont exist. Naturally, they make huge profits from these expensive gimmicks like electric windows, central locking power mirrors (Ive had to adjust my non adjustable mirrors maybe three times in five years) and auto matic transmissions.

Not to mention items used to track the driver (which I think is wrong):

http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forum...edr-in-tacoma/

There is a section in the Yaris owners manual that talks about a box that the owner is not supposed to remove. I can't remember if that passage relates to what the Tundra driver is writing about. I'll bet CTScott knows the answer.

[bronsin]

[QUOTE=nookandcrannycar;723485]Not to mention items used to track the driver (which I think is wrong):

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Yeah where this is all going in the future is really scary. At work they have cameras all over the place, they read all your emails, and have rats everywhere you wouldnt suspect that report back to the boss.

As far as cars go though the general driving public is totally out of control. Im in favor of recording devices on cars that are police accessable after an accident.

But of course you cant have it your way. If things go on the way they are we will all be just things that government and business can do whateveer they want with.

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by bronsin

If things go on the way they are we will all be just things that government and business can do whateveer they want with

LOL. See my post #30 directly above.