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Old 07-25-2014, 10:06 PM   #1
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If I were to get a new car. It better not have crank windows.
It's such an annoyance having to crawl over to close/open the passenger side...
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Old 07-25-2014, 11:46 PM   #2
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If I were to get a new car. It better not have crank windows.
It's such an annoyance having to crawl over to close/open the passenger side...

agree!!!
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Old 07-26-2014, 12:46 AM   #3
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agree!!!
Your needs/situation may differ from mine, which would contribute to having a different opinion . Also, you know how to do all of your own repairs, so the simplicity angle might not carry as much weight as a factor as it does for me.

It also just occurred to me that harsh winters (the case for both of you) might contribute to a preference for power windows.
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Old 07-26-2014, 05:53 AM   #4
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Your needs/situation may differ from mine, which would contribute to having a different opinion . Also, you know how to do all of your own repairs, so the simplicity angle might not carry as much weight as a factor as it does for me.



It also just occurred to me that harsh winters (the case for both of you) might contribute to a preference for power windows.

I actually don't care about it in the winter. Windows stay closed all the time.

But in the summer, being fuel efficient, I do not use the AC during my short commute to work. And you see, if you buy a barebones car, it probably doesn't have AC anyways, so you want to open that passenger window.
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Old 07-26-2014, 01:27 PM   #5
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I actually don't care about it in the winter. Windows stay closed all the time.

But in the summer, being fuel efficient, I do not use the AC during my short commute to work. And you see, if you buy a barebones car, it probably doesn't have AC anyways, so you want to open that passenger window.
Good point re the Canadian market. In the U.S. the Yaris (don't know about the ECHO) has always come standard with A/C, even on the most stripped model.
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Old 07-30-2014, 01:00 PM   #6
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'15 looks good

One mentioned in the comments about 'why" this refresh when another is coming out in a year.

Turns out, just a few days ago, it has been reported on AutoBlog that "Scion" is ditching the xB in favor of bringing over the "Auris 5-door hatch to replace the xB. (It looks a lot like a Kia Forte 5-door).

"And" they said the New Mazda 2-based car coming over from Mexico is "not" going to be the new Yaris, but the replacement for the Scion xD.

I think this 2015 Yaris re-fresh will be with us for 2-3 years "maybe".

I kind of like it. I still dig the old 1.5L engine and that bullet proof 4-speed automatic that performs smoother, more reliable than all the six speed and CVT units out there that the competition has. I like simplicity. Simplicity does not break and when it does, it is easy to fix. I might just trade my '13 LE 5-door for a '15 LE or SE. I still do not like anything else out there as much as my Yaris. All those haters on it?....."stuff them" as they say in Australia.

Sure it may be built in France, but after driving a 35,000 mile old, hard driven rental, French-made 2014 Yaris the other day, I swear that thing was tighter than my 14,000 mile old identical, gently driven Japanese-made 2013 Yaris. It really felt like a more solid, tighter car.
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Old 07-30-2014, 05:24 PM   #7
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"And" they said the New Mazda 2-based car coming over from Mexico is "not" going to be the new Yaris, but the replacement for the Scion xD.
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well, it said "the xD will also allegedly bow out in favor of a new hatchback based on the Mazda2". the new yaris can still be based on the mazda 2. they would just have different sheet metal and a different interior.
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Old 07-30-2014, 05:48 PM   #8
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I like simplicity. Simplicity does not break and when it does, it is easy to fix.


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Sure it may be built in France, but after driving a 35,000 mile old, hard driven rental, French-made 2014 Yaris the other day, I swear that thing was tighter than my 14,000 mile old identical, gently driven Japanese-made 2013 Yaris. It really felt like a more solid, tighter car.
This is music to my ears. I hope I like it when I sit in one (I imagine I will). If not, I'll probably get one of the remaining 2014s and buy Clazzio seat covers.
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Old 07-26-2014, 12:15 AM   #9
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If I were to get a new car. It better not have crank windows.
It's such an annoyance having to crawl over to close/open the passenger side...
I'm not talking about the locks, just the windows. If you are driving alone, why would you need to roll the passenger window down ?....unless you were parallel parked on a busy, narrow street trying to have a conversation with someone standing on the sidewalk. If you have a passenger, the passenger could roll the window down.

You have a sedan. I can see THAT (in addition to having a family) creating scenarios re ergonomics that would make having hand crank windows inconvenient. With a 3-door, and just myself to consider, I have a different take. Some other Yarisworld members do share my preference for hand crank windows. I feel power windows are just, especially on a Yaris, an unnecessary item that takes away from the simplicity. However, the main reason I prefer the hand crank windows was revealed to me when I had a rental Yaris LE in February. I like to drive (most of the time) with the driver door window cracked open ever so slightly. With the power windows, It is impossible to adjust that opening to my desired point. The window is either all the way up, or the opening is too wide.
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Old 07-26-2014, 12:25 AM   #10
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^^^^^ My re no hand crank windows available for the Canadian market in 2015 = I don't think this bodes well for potential USDM availability.
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