Problems with my yaris in winter

[blktiger60]

Ya.
Had some fun so far this winter. Twice now I found myself fishtailing down the freeway at 60+ in the snow. Both times I was lane changing and got caught in the little berm between lanes, took a good 400 yards to correct and travel straight again. Running Champiro IcePro's ( http://www.gtradial-us.com/en/CHAMPIRO_ICEPRO.html ) on the front and some old used ones on the back. Pretty sure the reason I washed out was due to the old ones on the back. Will be buying new IcePro's for the back next winter.
The wife has IcePro's all the way around on her Accord and she doesn't have problems. I recommend them.

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by blktiger60

Ya.
Had some fun so far this winter. Twice now I found myself fishtailing down the freeway at 60+ in the snow. Both times I was lane changing and got caught in the little berm between lanes, took a good 400 yards to correct and travel straight again. Running Champiro IcePro's ( http://www.gtradial-us.com/en/CHAMPIRO_ICEPRO.html ) on the front and some old used ones on the back. Pretty sure the reason I washed out was due to the old ones on the back. Will be buying new IcePro's for the back next winter.
The wife has IcePro's all the way around on her Accord and she doesn't have problems. I recommend them.

I hope you are quite experienced at this.

[blktiger60]

Originally Posted by nookandcrannycar

I hope you are quite experienced at this.

Well, when its not planed its always a bit hair-raising but ya been driving in the pacific northwest since 1975. Mall parking lot 360's/720's country road drift hunting etc. The wife was with me both times. She didn't make a peep. Gravel roads act alot like snow if you give it enough gas and exaggerate steering.

Much more fun in a rear wheeler, like my MR2.

[edmscan]

Just wanted to comment .. I live in Edmonton. So .. this winter I have fish tailed my Yaris twice now. It was not quite a 360 .. but scary all the same.

I have been driving in winter conditions for 35 years, so not like I am not used to it.

I am a very slow cautious driver. Once .. it was maybe 20 km/h (12 mph), the other time about 15 km/h (9 mph). Both times .. on icy roads. The back end .. was by my door, first one side then the other.

I thought the car was going to roll, especially the first time. It is not a good feeling.

The Yaris .. is definitely very temperamental on icy roads, it is fine in snow.

I do not have all season tires, I have all weather tires (hybrid tires .. designed for all year driving).

I have not had as many issues in the last 2 years then what I have had this year.

But I have recognized now the conditions where the Yaris has issues, I am very aware of what they are now and are extra cautious now.

Some people still drive like it is summer .. but I usually read about those *** on Twitter.

The problem here .. the city grades the roads, but that actually makes it worse, as they are very slow to put sand on the roads. It is actually much worse than driving on the snow covered roads.

If they have sanded the roads .. no issues at all. But .. freshly graded (and no bare road to be seen), and you are in trouble. It is exactly like driving on a skating rink. You can tell .. the roads are just a solid white color.

[blktiger60]

Originally Posted by blktiger60

Ya.
Had some fun so far this winter. Twice now I found myself fishtailing down the freeway at 60+ in the snow. Both times I was lane changing and got caught in the little berm between lanes, took a good 400 yards to correct and travel straight again. Running Champiro IcePro's ( http://www.gtradial-us.com/en/CHAMPIRO_ICEPRO.html ) on the front and some old used ones on the back. Pretty sure the reason I washed out was due to the old ones on the back. Will be buying new IcePro's for the back next winter.
The wife has IcePro's all the way around on her Accord and she doesn't have problems. I recommend them.

Not so much as a wiggle since I got the IcePro's