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Old 08-18-2015, 11:35 AM   #1
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Yes however their the least effective filter to use. Don't know about you but I don't use cheap filters.
My 1974 VW Beetle had NO oil filter (and 2.5 quarts of oil) and the crank, rods, and camshaft and their bearings went 250,000 miles and still weren't worn out.

And that's an aircooled engine.

Cheap oil filters for me!
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Old 08-18-2015, 05:13 PM   #2
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My 1974 VW Beetle had NO oil filter (and 2.5 quarts of oil) and the crank, rods, and camshaft and their bearings went 250,000 miles and still weren't worn out.

And that's an aircooled engine.

Cheap oil filters for me!
Isn't that a boxer engine? So a very different design than our cars with variable valve timing and such that can be damaged from particulates in the oil hence the reason for the oil filter.
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Isn't that a boxer engine? So a very different design than our cars with variable valve timing and such that can be damaged from particulates in the oil hence the reason for the oil filter.
Yes its a boxer engine.

I would argue the fact that ALL the bearings were still in spec after 250k miles and NO oil filter means the modern features of our Yaris's engine wont be damaged either. And lets remember the FRAM filters are laboratory tested to a standard for modern cars. They meet the same standards as every other filter in their class for effectiveness and durability, no matter their dubious looking construction.

The notion that FRAM filters aren't up to snuff is a conclusion of non engineers with no lab to test oil filters and no experience in that field.

And then theres this. After around twelve years and ~125k miles the engine may be doing just fine but the rest of the car is a decade out of style and modern safety and convenience features.

For a lot of people that means new car time...
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