Kia and Hyundai.

[Thirty-Nine]

Hyundai and Kia are undeniably world-class auto makers nowadays. I've driven everything from a Kia Rio to a Hyundai Genesis, and they're great. It's a company that knows where its going and has really learned how to build good cars and appeal to the right markets. Good on them.

[bairjo]

Originally Posted by Thirty-Nine

Hyundai and Kia are undeniably world-class auto makers nowadays. I've driven everything from a Kia Rio to a Hyundai Genesis, and they're great. It's a company that knows where its going and has really learned how to build good cars and appeal to the right markets. Good on them.

Just don't get a flat tire in one...This world class company doesn't think you will ever need a spare tire. Also, better check your actual gas mileage in an older one...yea, they overstated their performance there a few years back....and got busted....world class.

[Thirty-Nine]

Originally Posted by bairjo

Just don't get a flat tire in one...This world class company doesn't think you will ever need a spare tire. Also, better check your actual gas mileage in an older one...yea, they overstated their performance there a few years back....and got busted....world class.

There are plenty of manufacturers offering cars without spare tires. BMW, Subaru, Mercedes, Chevrolet, Toyota (some Prius models don't have a spare) and the list goes on and on. Fact of the matter is, most people call AAA or road-side assistance these days. Do you know how many people don't even know how to change a tire? (Apparently, 60% of people are not confident in the ability to change at tire).

Yeah, Hyundai and Kia weren't measuring up to fuel economy standards. No manufacturer is immune to issues. Ever Googled "Toyota Sludge?"

Consumers saddled with sludge-clogged Toyota engines may soon get some help from the Japanese auto giant under the terms of a class-action lawsuit settlement that covers roughly 3.5 million Toyota and Lexus vehicles damaged by engine oil sludge.

https://www.consumeraffairs.com/news...ettlement.html

Just sayin'.

[David C]

Originally Posted by Thirty-Nine

There are plenty of manufacturers offering cars without spare tires. BMW, Subaru, Mercedes, Chevrolet, Toyota (some Prius models don't have a spare) and the list goes on and on. Fact of the matter is, most people call AAA or road-side assistance these days. Do you know how many people don't even know how to change a tire? (Apparently, 60% of people are not confident in the ability to change at tire).

Are those cars parts of current lineups (regarding no spare tire) ? Just curious as I thought every daily driver modern car had a spare and basic tire changing equipment. Although I could see a Smart no having one due to the very small space available.

They should make tire change part of the practical driving exam when you get your license.

Last I checked, all the Huyndai at the dealership had a nice spare tire under the rear cargo deck with a jack, jack handle, billy club and tow hook.

Maybe it's part of our Canadian federal laws for manufacturers to include such equipment (like the mandatory km/h speedometer, DRL, etc). All the cars I've been into (pretty much most common models of all makes) had spare tires.




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[WeeYari]

Originally Posted by David C

Maybe it's part of our Canadian federal laws for manufacturers to include such equipment (like the mandatory km/h speedometer, DRL, etc).

No, it is not mandatory Canadian law. Lots of makes/models are now sold here with only a tire inflation kit provided.


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[David C]

Originally Posted by WeeYari

No, it is not mandatory Canadian law. Lots of makes/models are now sold here with only a tire inflation kit provided.


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Could you list the most common ones ? I'm curious to know.


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[WeeYari]

Originally Posted by David C

Could you list the most common ones ? I'm curious to know.

A bit of light reading for you http://publicaffairsresources.aaa.bi...Spare-Tire.pdf

Just google 'vehicles without spares' for more links and stories. Run flats and inflation kits is a global trend which seemed to take hold with the 2014 model year.

[WeeYari]

Originally Posted by bairjo

Just don't get a flat tire in one...This world class company doesn't think you will ever need a spare tire.

I cannot believe that statement was actually made. Talk about speaking without knowing a shred of fact.

[Dodge Aries K]

Originally Posted by WeeYari

I cannot believe that statement was actually made. Talk about speaking without knowing a shred of fact.

I have Koreamobile. Spare tire does not exist. It has big styrofoam piece in the trunk where spare tire should go. Hyundai will be happy to sell me a spare tire kit for the low cost of almost $300 though...

[bairjo]

Originally Posted by WeeYari

I cannot believe that statement was actually made. Talk about speaking without knowing a shred of fact.

So you come on here and slam me for stating they have no spare tire. When I open my daughters trunk...no spare tire. That is a fact. In my mind, that is not world class. Also, bringing up other manufacturers that have also lowered their standards on a kia thread does not make the kia all of a sudden a better car. My daughter lives 5 hours away and had her car a year before I found out she was without a spare. Do you think I should have gotten on here and expressed how impressed I was? Yea, I looked in that empty trunk and the first thing that came to my mind was...world class. Sorry I bothered you.