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[SirDigby]

Originally Posted by Motzking1

A good technician is becoming harder and harder to come by. Why? Because it takes a very intelligent, very highly trained and educated and physically strong individual to be one. People like you assume anybody can do it.

If they are a ASE cerified Master Technician chances are they are one of the best in there field.

no. good technicians are hard to come by because shops/dealerships do not want to pay for quality work. they know there is such a huge saturation of techs out there they can pay some stupid low wages and they will get "acceptable" results. good techs move on to other types of technological work that pay a fair wage. I gave up trying to make a living 5 years ago, now I make 30% more repairing shop equipment and giving dealerships the bill!

all having/being an "ASE Technician" means is you have someone that is good at taking tests and makes enough money to throw away $60+ at each test. (there is +50 tests) it's almost the same as buying a car with a "Carfax." it really doesn't mean much.
i'm not attacking your skills or workmanship, but in my 12 years I never once considered getting ASE's as I seen them as a total waste of money and time. (just like a Carfax) I did complete dealer specific training, as that is what is REALLY needed to get a head in dealerships, and has functional knowledge. (Toyota, Honda, Acura, Volkswagen, Audi)

[Motzking1]

Originally Posted by SirDigby

no. good technicians are hard to come by because shops/dealerships do not want to pay for quality work. they know there is such a huge saturation of techs out there they can pay some stupid low wages and they will get "acceptable" results. good techs move on to other types of technological work that pay a fair wage. I gave up trying to make a living 5 years ago, now I make 30% more repairing shop equipment and giving dealerships the bill!

all having/being an "ASE Technician" means is you have someone that is good at taking tests and makes enough money to throw away $60+ at each test. (there is +50 tests) it's almost the same as buying a car with a "Carfax." it really doesn't mean much.
i'm not attacking your skills or workmanship, but in my 12 years I never once considered getting ASE's as I seen them as a total waste of money and time. (just like a Carfax) I did complete dealer specific training, as that is what is REALLY needed to get a head in dealerships, and has functional knowledge. (Toyota, Honda, Acura, Volkswagen, Audi)

I have no argument with that. That would mirror my experience. The shops want to charge for top notch work but pay for as you said "acceptable". I work for a parts distributor. As like you I abandoned the tech position many years ago for the same reasons. Poor pay. I put my times and efforts into a diferent game. The buisness I work for is a family buisness. It is in the final stages of sale to Genuine Motor Patrs. I have 8 days left in my career. I will retire at age 42.
You are correct. The shops are not willing to pay for the best, so they leave.
I here what you are saying about the ASE certs. It made sence at one point decades ago. I hold and maintain 42 total ASE certs. The price to do do is absurd. Not at al worth the cost.
Again I have no argument with your point of view. It is spot on.

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