What car would you like to see in production again?

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Originally Posted by ern-diz

Do you mean bring back the way it was originally, or in a modern form?

The Supra will be here soon. Not sure everyone will be happy with the final specs, but it's coming.

I would personally like to see the return of the mighty RX-7. I doubt it would sell well, but that's what I'd like to see.

Just like Acura failed hard with the "NSX," I'm sure Toyota isn't going to do well with the "Supra," especially since it'll lack a manual transmission and only have around 330 hp at a $60k price point.

[ern-diz]

Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna

Just like Acura failed hard with the "NSX," I'm sure Toyota isn't going to do well with the "Supra," especially since it'll lack a manual transmission and only have around 330 hp at a $60k price point.

Hard to argue that Although, I'm not sure the NSX was a hard fail. It puts up some numbers and apparently the driving experience is something else.

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Originally Posted by ern-diz

Hard to argue that Although, I'm not sure the NSX was a hard fail. It puts up some numbers and apparently the driving experience is something else.

When your sales count is in the single digits and you offer 30k off the car and still can't sell them, that's pretty bad.

[ern-diz]

Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna

When your sales count is in the single digits and you offer 30k off the car and still can't sell them, that's pretty bad.

Again, can't argue that lol but from a driving perspective only, guys like Matt Farah drive it and then ramp and rave about how good it is. Something tells me it won't be the same with the new Supra.

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Originally Posted by ern-diz

Again, can't argue that lol but from a driving perspective only, guys like Matt Farah drive it and then ramp and rave about how good it is. Something tells me it won't be the same with the new Supra.

That, itself is a bad indication. Great driving car that was praised by The Smoking Tire, and yet still sales are lackluster???

[ern-diz]

Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna

That, itself is a bad indication. Great driving car that was praised by The Smoking Tire, and yet still sales are lackluster???

I could be way off base here, but I feel like when people who can afford that car see the performance numbers on paper, they close their mind to it without considering anything else.

Reminds me of the Tesla bit in the latest episode of Silicon Valley on HBO, where one Model S version going 0-60 at a fraction of a second less than the other version has the guy bummed out. Once that happens enough, the rumor of it being a disappointment propagates and it's downhill from there when at the end of the day, it's probably a fantastic machine.

In a different way, we've been literally watching that happen with the Yaris. Great little car that gets killed by the reviewers and therefore slept on by most people as illustrated by lower sales numbers.

The Supra on the other hand, in automatic only?! That's more than just sales numbers, that's tangible disappointment, imho.

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Originally Posted by ern-diz

I could be way off base here, but I feel like when people who can afford that car see the performance numbers on paper, they close their mind to it without considering anything else.

Reminds me of the Tesla bit in the latest episode of Silicon Valley on HBO, where one Model S version going 0-60 at a fraction of a second less than the other version has the guy bummed out. Once that happens enough, the rumor of it being a disappointment propagates and it's downhill from there when at the end of the day, it's probably a fantastic machine.

In a different way, we've been literally watching that happen with the Yaris. Great little car that gets killed by the reviewers and therefore slept on by most people as illustrated by lower sales numbers.

The Supra on the other hand, in automatic only?! That's more than just sales numbers, that's tangible disappointment, imho.

It may be that, or it may just be the performance of the NSX just isn't worth its asking price.

The Yaris on the other hand imo as a former Toyota sales, have lower sales numbers because of perceived value. Back then, it was awesome value. However, Toyota hasn't done much in terms of updating it substantially over the years, so for just a couple thousand bucks more, you can get a more refined Corolla (new for new) that has more performance, more safety features, and almost as much mpg as the Yaris.

The Yaris (not counting the iA) was the one model I never sold new. Hell, I sold two (new) Venzas some how. lol.