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Old 12-06-2018, 06:40 AM   #1
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Originally Posted by Jason@SportsCar View Post
Never had any call to upgrade the rears. The OE shoes already give inside lock up when trail-braking into very fast turns, a more aggressive pad would only make it worse. When the inside tire lifts and the brake pedal has even a little pressure on it that tire just wants to stop.

I know some of the B-Spec guys (they have ABS we don't in H Prod) found that too much rear brake put the car in ice-mode.

Still have the original rear shoes on the car after four seasons.

HPS is a street pad, not a good choice for the front for anything other than autocross. We have Porterfield cut out a Hawk DTC-60 for the front of the Yaris.
This is exactly the info I was looking for - thank you Jason. Carbotech warned me that it could upset the braking balance. If the oem shoes last throughout your season then I'll stock with that. Saves me the cash to put elsewhere.

I agree with your on the HPS pads, they were what u had when I started tracking the car but as I started to work on brake zones and threshold braking they fell apart very fast. Now I just use them for dding and they are fine for that.

I know what you mean about "ice mode". TMP has a chicane right before a 90 degree corner and if I apply the brakes a few feet too early I do so during a bump and I completely blow the corner - the abs will kick in on all 4 wheel for the next 4 seconds making my brakes useless.
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