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Old 01-06-2023, 01:41 PM   #1
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ha an 82 xl250, that was the last year of the drum front end, ive got an 80 xl500s and an 83 xl600r, night n day the changes they made, ..tho the 81/82 xl2560 had revisions neerly every year, they were trying to perfect the 83 when it dropped, and missed the mark thats why the 84 was neerly perfect for over 20 years....ive got an 84xr250 as well

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10 or so honda 50s from 67-96 both in Z, monkey and xr format from stock to mod to full crazy
69 trail 90
74 125s
75 mr175
79 xl125s
80 xl500s
83 xl600r
84 xr250
86 200sx fourtrax sport
00 400ex

80 kd75
86 kdx200
01 zr7s

86 xt350
89 xt650

ive only bought n sold a few...i tend to hang onto em...there was a yamaha streethawk? and the 01 interceptor that i HATED..yet i adore honda as well as a couple xr250s...otherwise all of the above is currently in the stable
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Old 01-06-2023, 02:18 PM   #2
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Old 01-07-2023, 08:25 AM   #3
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ha an 82 xl250, that was the last year of the drum front end,


ive only bought n sold a few...i tend to hang onto em
Yes and they were cable operated brakes as well. I wish I had hung onto that XL 250 you could take it completely apart with just the tool kit that came with it. It was beautifully simple and incredibly well thought out. Especially the snail chain adjusters! You never see them anymore!

Contrast that with the brake system of the ST 1300 with linked brakes and ABS. Those linked brake system are so complicated I imagine ST 1300s are just sitting around unable to be ridden because no one can fix the brakes anymore they are so complicated.

Safest way to ride a motorcycle is just use the throttle and don’t touch the brakes except for stop signs. Cable operated drum brakes are all you need even for an ST 1300!
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Old 01-07-2023, 03:10 PM   #4
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Yes and they were cable operated brakes as well. I wish I had hung onto that XL 250 you could take it completely apart with just the tool kit that came with it. It was beautifully simple and incredibly well thought out. Especially the snail chain adjusters! You never see them anymore!

Contrast that with the brake system of the ST 1300 with linked brakes and ABS. Those linked brake system are so complicated I imagine ST 1300s are just sitting around unable to be ridden because no one can fix the brakes anymore they are so complicated.

Safest way to ride a motorcycle is just use the throttle and don’t touch the brakes except for stop signs. Cable operated drum brakes are all you need even for an ST 1300!
when i got my 01 interceptor it was to replace my o1 zr7-s..most dont know what that is so ill simplify..its the last itteration of the GPZ and shares pretty much everything on the engine and half of whats o the frame

LOVED the brakes on the gpz with that weird 60/70 split..but i thought about working on it.....loved the vtech KICK...but the suspension about killed me 3 times in under 300 miles....i played with it and couldnt get it closer to how i needed it so i let it go...and if you looked at my list im pretty die hard honda..i grew up on hondas...the "new" gpz is so perfect to me..air cooled, carbs, simple, but that suspension...it sucks up the worst while still being firm and planted i put 15000 miles on it in the first year i had it..and still love the bike..ha one day where i spent 14 hours in the saddle...being 6'4 thats a feat in itself to have anything be comfortable for taht long outside of my xl600r

"most" of the hondas pre 90s could be entirely worked on with just the OE kit..and your right on the snail setup brilliant!..as for that cable brake front end.....my xl600r had that front end on it when i got it..now let me tell you at 100mph or long down hills that shit gets SCARY!!!!..took me a while to find a complete correct disc front end for it, on a 250 i could see it being fine...

ive had me xl600r, xl500s and xr250 down to the bone atleast twice each...very simple bikes rock solid reliability and the fact that you can still order parts direct from honda for em...hard to argue with
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