Yaris Sedan Deadening and Sound system upgrade - Page 110 - Toyota Yaris Forums

derickveliz2 · 07-07-2012, 12:07 AM

mmm sq system can be addictive, and dangerous... some times when cruising on the high way, I just loose notion of where I'm am, dam music makes the car disappear and makes me feel I'm somewhere else! LOL

D.

derickveliz2 · 07-07-2012, 12:10 AM

BTW,...

I've been playing with the left side tweeter, you guys are not going to believe what I'm trying to do!

Stage getting wider and deeper!

D.

sqcomp · 07-07-2012, 09:21 AM

Do tell...Pictures are appropriate as well. :)

derickveliz2 · 07-08-2012, 12:17 AM

No pictures today, still a secrete but I'm cutting metal again!

D.

derickveliz2 · 07-08-2012, 02:02 AM

OK, I'm going to need help! (advice)

I'm trying to dig in the tweeter in the a-pillar into the metal, so how do I cut a round circle there? I did a few holes with a small bit just to check I get the clearance in the back and there are no structural members.

Why I'm doing this? is because I'm physically moving the tweeter's position by 3.5 inches forward and almost 2 inches towards the left side, I'm loosing about 3-4 inches of height but I did try the tweeter and stage still up high, so that I don't mind, but...

the fact that the stage got wider and deeper from actual location the end result it's very satisfactory, so I really would like to sink in this tweeter there, any advice is welcome! I guess I need a special tool?

These pictures show the left a-pillar and the round wood peace represents the circle I want to cut away:

D.

sqcomp · 07-08-2012, 10:40 AM

How were you cutting the hole? That angle is tricky because of the glass.

derickveliz2 · 07-08-2012, 05:27 PM

I was thinking of making a series of holes around the perimeter then try to trim the imperfections with a dremel, but it's so hard to do each hole. I was hopping to find a good tool that would make my life easier.

D.

07typeS · 07-08-2012, 06:33 PM

Why not just use a hole saw.. It looks like there is enough room to get a drill in there..

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...&storeId=10051

sqcomp · 07-08-2012, 06:57 PM

That proposed hole is VERY close to the glass...that's the challenge. Know that the hole is only the size of a tweeter. Can a right angle adaptor give enough torque to drive a hole saw?

The dremel idea may be the best at the moment.

:) whadyamean you can't angle a sawzall in there?!? :)

07typeS · 07-08-2012, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sqcomp

That proposed hole is VERY close to the glass...that's the challenge. Know that the hole is only the size of a tweeter. Can a right angle adaptor give enough torque to drive a hole saw?

The dremel idea may be the best at the moment.

:) whadyamean you can't angle a sawzall in there?!? :)

well aslong as there is no glass directly behind you're proposed hole, drill a centered pilot hole, and the hole saw will stay perfectly on line.. Ive seen one drift when dont that way..

But i get the hesitation.. I guess the dremel probably is the way you would wanna go..

And if you do try the sawzall, please get it on video!!!! haha

derickveliz2 · 07-10-2012, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 07typeS

And if you do try the sawzall, please get it on video!!!! haha

I did it! I did it!

Video1:*It was so easy that I took my phone for a video!

Video 2: Without holding my cell phone for video I could probably have done it in less than half of the time..

D.

derickveliz2 · 07-08-2012, 11:11 PM

Some thing like a hole saw mentioned above is what I had in mind, Yes a dremel may be the power tool, now because of the angle of the a-pillar the dremel will not be exactly perpendicular to the cut, I hope that would not be an issue.

I'll stop by tomorrow at the local store and see if I can find a hole saw that fits the size of the hole that I need.

Thanks

D.

sqcomp · 07-09-2012, 02:45 AM

It's not the bit I'm concerned with in using a hole saw that close to the glass...

If you think a dremel is too big, a drill body is massive...one needs to get the hole saw bit straight on just like the dremel. Can you squeeze yourself into a good place on that dash to hit the pillar straight on with either option?

sqcomp · 07-09-2012, 11:20 AM

I hate drilling into metal...

derickveliz2 · 07-09-2012, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sqcomp

I hate drilling into metal...

Me too! I'm going to confirm that in a few minutes!

D.

derickveliz2 · 07-10-2012, 01:23 AM

OK, this was so EASY, just like a hot knife on butter! best $15 bucks spent.

Now I have left tweeter as far forward and far to the left I possible can! I gain 5 inches and that's a lot! the distance from my left ear to tweeter now is 48" it used to be 43".

Stage is wider and deeper already!
Probably 5 inches sound meaningless, but you should hear the difference that it makes.

Picture 1: the a-pillar after cutting the metal

Picture 2: Tweeter in place! NICE! I'm happy.

D.

sickpuppy1 · 07-10-2012, 06:41 AM

What about the aiming? Looks like its down at the dash....

sqcomp · 07-10-2012, 09:49 AM

The aiming axis at that point will only have a minor effect. The gain Derick has from physical location is going to override the angle for the most part. What I'm going to be interested to see is how the mounting is integrated with the a pillar.

I see that mount is deep...really deep in there. What say you Derick? This may be a good experiment for horn loading...

07-07-2012, 12:07 AM	#1
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	mmm sq system can be addictive, and dangerous... some times when cruising on the high way, I just loose notion of where I'm am, dam music makes the car disappear and makes me feel I'm somewhere else! LOL D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

07-07-2012, 12:10 AM	#2
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	BTW,... I've been playing with the left side tweeter, you guys are not going to believe what I'm trying to do! Stage getting wider and deeper! D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

07-07-2012, 09:21 AM	#3
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	Do tell...Pictures are appropriate as well. :) __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

07-08-2012, 12:17 AM	#4
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	No pictures today, still a secrete but I'm cutting metal again! D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

07-08-2012, 02:02 AM	#5
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	OK, I'm going to need help! (advice) I'm trying to dig in the tweeter in the a-pillar into the metal, so how do I cut a round circle there? I did a few holes with a small bit just to check I get the clearance in the back and there are no structural members. Why I'm doing this? is because I'm physically moving the tweeter's position by 3.5 inches forward and almost 2 inches towards the left side, I'm loosing about 3-4 inches of height but I did try the tweeter and stage still up high, so that I don't mind, but... the fact that the stage got wider and deeper from actual location the end result it's very satisfactory, so I really would like to sink in this tweeter there, any advice is welcome! I guess I need a special tool? These pictures show the left a-pillar and the round wood peace represents the circle I want to cut away: D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

07-08-2012, 10:40 AM	#6
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	How were you cutting the hole? That angle is tricky because of the glass. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

07-08-2012, 05:27 PM	#7
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	I was thinking of making a series of holes around the perimeter then try to trim the imperfections with a dremel, but it's so hard to do each hole. I was hopping to find a good tool that would make my life easier. D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

07-08-2012, 06:33 PM	#8
07typeS View User's Garage Drives: 2007 White Toyota Yaris Type S Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 439	Why not just use a hole saw.. It looks like there is enough room to get a drill in there.. http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...&storeId=10051 __________________ TRD Springs w/ KYB Struts and Shocks, Custom CAI w/ K&N filter and pre filter wrap, Weapon R Header, Stock 15 inch alloys, Dezod Performance pads, Tanabe Front Strut Bar, 35% front door Tint and 20% Rear doors back Tint, De-Badged Ass, Custom painted flat black interior, Pioneer deh-p6700bt w/ IPOD hookup, Infinity components up front with custom mounted tweeter, Inifinity 6x9's out back, 1 12" kicker comp cvr........

07-08-2012, 06:57 PM	#9
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	That proposed hole is VERY close to the glass...that's the challenge. Know that the hole is only the size of a tweeter. Can a right angle adaptor give enough torque to drive a hole saw? The dremel idea may be the best at the moment. :) whadyamean you can't angle a sawzall in there?!? :) __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

07-08-2012, 11:11 PM	#12
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	Some thing like a hole saw mentioned above is what I had in mind, Yes a dremel may be the power tool, now because of the angle of the a-pillar the dremel will not be exactly perpendicular to the cut, I hope that would not be an issue. I'll stop by tomorrow at the local store and see if I can find a hole saw that fits the size of the hole that I need. Thanks D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

07-09-2012, 02:45 AM	#13
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	It's not the bit I'm concerned with in using a hole saw that close to the glass... If you think a dremel is too big, a drill body is massive...one needs to get the hole saw bit straight on just like the dremel. Can you squeeze yourself into a good place on that dash to hit the pillar straight on with either option? __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

07-09-2012, 11:20 AM	#14
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	I hate drilling into metal... __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine Last edited by sqcomp; 07-09-2012 at 10:32 PM.

07-10-2012, 01:23 AM	#16
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	OK, this was so EASY, just like a hot knife on butter! best $15 bucks spent. Now I have left tweeter as far forward and far to the left I possible can! I gain 5 inches and that's a lot! the distance from my left ear to tweeter now is 48" it used to be 43". Stage is wider and deeper already! Probably 5 inches sound meaningless, but you should hear the difference that it makes. Picture 1: the a-pillar after cutting the metal Picture 2: Tweeter in place! NICE! I'm happy. D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

07-10-2012, 06:41 AM	#17
sickpuppy1 Drives: 2010 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kansas Posts: 871	What about the aiming? Looks like its down at the dash.... __________________

07-10-2012, 09:49 AM	#18
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	The aiming axis at that point will only have a minor effect. The gain Derick has from physical location is going to override the angle for the most part. What I'm going to be interested to see is how the mounting is integrated with the a pillar. I see that mount is deep...really deep in there. What say you Derick? This may be a good experiment for horn loading... __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

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