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Old 06-23-2011, 03:20 PM   #19
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So here is what I gathered..

Cut springs for a cheap drop for showing off.

CoilOvers for track/autox.

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Coilovers for a car that has 105hp?? No thanks!!
I dont belive HP has anything to do with cutting your springs.

Congrats to you for your innovative solution for getting that drop look. Just drive safe, keep us updated as you go though. I am very curious how your car is handling a year or two from now. For those who have argued about the cut springs for so long. Good luck guys.
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Old 06-23-2011, 03:54 PM   #20
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So here is what I gathered..

Cut springs for a cheap drop for showing off.

CoilOvers for track/autox.



I dont belive HP has anything to do with cutting your springs.

Congrats to you for your innovative solution for getting that drop look. Just drive safe, keep us updated as you go though. I am very curious how your car is handling a year or two from now. For those who have argued about the cut springs for so long. Good luck guys.


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Old 06-23-2011, 05:39 PM   #21
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So here is what I gathered..

Cut springs for a cheap drop for showing off.

CoilOvers for track/autox.



I dont belive HP has anything to do with cutting your springs.

Congrats to you for your innovative solution for getting that drop look. Just drive safe, keep us updated as you go though. I am very curious how your car is handling a year or two from now. For those who have argued about the cut springs for so long. Good luck guys.
Coilovers are so good imo, even for showing off, getting super slammed and flush while still maintaining some ride quality, I'd always go coilover if I wanted to go super low. The flexibility of being able to adjust height and dampening is amazing. I just went for the middle route though, Springs and Shocks upgrade, aiming for performance but for cheaper. I think getting nice springs and shocks is better than getting a cheap coilover. I can see why cutting springs makes more sense for some people though. Please keep us updated since that is by far the cheapest way to go for a drop and sometimes that's all you need.
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Old 06-24-2011, 01:36 AM   #22
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Coilovers are so good imo, even for showing off, getting super slammed and flush while still maintaining some ride quality, I'd always go coilover if I wanted to go super low. The flexibility of being able to adjust height and dampening is amazing. I just went for the middle route though, Springs and Shocks upgrade, aiming for performance but for cheaper. I think getting nice springs and shocks is better than getting a cheap coilover. I can see why cutting springs makes more sense for some people though. Please keep us updated since that is by far the cheapest way to go for a drop and sometimes that's all you need.
Y is evryone so pissy!!! This wut i have been doin since modify rice burners started!!! Thats how ive been doin it for over twenty years and i have never had any truble. Cuz i try to do all bolt on mods with my own hands and tools so i know whats goin on. Whoever says cuttin springs is wrong theyre just scared. So ill spend more money to get almost equal result.
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Old 06-24-2011, 02:25 AM   #23
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Old 06-24-2011, 02:49 AM   #24
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Looks good.
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Old 06-24-2011, 01:26 PM   #25
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Y is evryone so pissy!!! This wut i have been doin since modify rice burners started!!! Thats how ive been doin it for over twenty years and i have never had any truble. Cuz i try to do all bolt on mods with my own hands and tools so i know whats goin on. Whoever says cuttin springs is wrong theyre just scared. So ill spend more money to get almost equal result.
Equal results huh?? My car would leave yours sitting on an auto-x course or on a backroad. Cut springs are for people with no money, and yes if you would like me to post up pics of all my previous cars that ive drag raced i will, the list goes on and on. I bought this car to modify cause it was something i havent done yet, im a full time Mechanic/Store Manager running a full service Automotive shop where i live, dont tell me you think you know what your talking about, cutting springs on a car is just plain dumb and dangerous cause they dont seat properly on these perches, a few cut coils are ok if the spring is the same diam all the way through, but thats on most older vehicles, keep looking ghetto and getting laughed at, I mean we already get made fun of for driving yaris, i can only imagine what they say when you roll up ..
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Old 06-24-2011, 02:22 PM   #26
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Yes they do fall out of the seats. You just have to be there when they bring car down to make sure they go back in correctly. As far as bumpstops, i of course cut them in half. This not my first rodeo in slammin vehicles. Bottom line is i dont mind some of the inconviences that come along with being LOW and looking good. Thanks for your opion though!!
Ok, I dont want to get in another pissing match. BUT jekqmb is right about handling, and I am only touching on the handling point on this.

Im quoting this because if you actually track a car or even autox a car that have cut springs, you will taking turns at full braking and quite possible tripod (3 wheel on the road, 1 rear wheel in the air).
So if you have to be careful about bringing a car off a jack or a lift and make sure that the spring seats inside the strut mount, you should be worried about taking those sharp turns on the on ramp with uneven roads and pot holes. You cannot tell me that cut springs are just as good as lowering springs and/or coilovers when it comes to handling.

Like I said before, to each thier own.
Cut springs are for showing off on a budget. Be careful driving out there and keep us posted if something should happen. I am curioius of the life of your shocks if you are still running stock ones. Your car looks good, I do like it. Kudos on your mods
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Old 06-24-2011, 07:39 PM   #27
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I never had a problem so nobody with a pocket full $ can change my mind!! I never plan on puttin my sedan yaris on a track!! This is my commuter car for work!! I guess if i dont auto cross i cant be on this site!! Peace!!!
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Old 06-24-2011, 08:31 PM   #28
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I thought people stopped cutting springs 5 years ago
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Old 06-24-2011, 08:39 PM   #29
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I can see the cut springs on a budget, even if I wouldnt do it myself. I guess I'd worry about going over a big dip in the road, having the car float a bit, and having a spring fall out. I rotate my tires every other oil change and wouldnt want the hassle of dicking with holding a spring in place by hand and stuff.(zip ties? lol) For me, I'd just wait, save up the 139 to 180 and do the new springs, if not doing a whole coilover thing.At least then, you have a spring thats meant for the job. I'd like mine lower too, and will never do the autocross scenario.
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Old 06-25-2011, 05:57 AM   #30
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I never had a problem so nobody with a pocket full $ can change my mind!! I never plan on puttin my sedan yaris on a track!! This is my commuter car for work!! I guess if i dont auto cross i cant be on this site!! Peace!!!
No one said if you don't autocross that you aren't welcome on this site, but with that attitude...don't let the door pop your ass on the way out.

Cut springs are for people that want the cheapest way to get the purely cosmetic result of a dropped car and nothing more. If your springs are falling out of the seats when you merely jack the car up, I can't even imagine how lousy your ride quality and cornering limits are. Even a basic TRD set up with stickies like my car has would leave your car in the dust, and ride better while doing it. But hey, your car. Go nuts with it.

Want to cut 3 coils out of your lowering springs? Fine. Want to pee your pants when not everyone agrees with your opinion on cutting springs? Well then, now you've got a problem. And that's what always bothers me with all of you people that go slicing springs. You get mad when somebody points out that there are better ways to go about achieving the same goal.

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Old 06-25-2011, 07:14 AM   #31
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I never had a problem so nobody with a pocket full $ can change my mind!! I never plan on puttin my sedan yaris on a track!! This is my commuter car for work!! I guess if i dont auto cross i cant be on this site!! Peace!!!
My apoligies,

I did not mean to push the whole autocross/track thing on you. I forget that the majority of the people here do not even think about stuff like that. I guess all im saying is taking a on ramp at full speed (like I see some nuts out there do) is dangerous with cut springs. I was just trying to make an example why that is.

I am, however, curious what shocks you are running. If they are OEM, Id like for you to let us know how they hold up.. pics maybe if they are leaking or what nots.
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Old 06-25-2011, 09:11 AM   #32
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My apoligies,

I did not mean to push the whole autocross/track thing on you. I forget that the majority of the people here do not even think about stuff like that. I guess all im saying is taking a on ramp at full speed (like I see some nuts out there do) is dangerous with cut springs. I was just trying to make an example why that is.

I am, however, curious what shocks you are running. If they are OEM, Id like for you to let us know how they hold up.. pics maybe if they are leaking or what nots.
I have been running tokico blues on tanabe dfs with 2 1/2 coils cut in front for +35,000 mi in 1yr n 2mos. Also with the bumpstop cut in half. I also have a set of a Teins from seanele who i got my wheels from that i plan on installing with clamps for the front instead of cutting. But for now my low budge cut looks the same as coilovers. If u cut the springs without cutting bumpstop you will of course be everywhere. The bumpstop is what makes the car bounce everywhere try. Like said been doin it for years no prob
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Old 06-25-2011, 11:37 AM   #33
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If you are worried about the spring falling out, a simple clamp/strap on one end will secure it.

There is nothing wrong with cutting a coil spring as long as all other details are thought through.

Parts are parts. It doesn't matter who made them as long as they work.
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