And another stupid question...

[otterhere]

Originally Posted by BEEF

it has a stiffer feel depending on the spring rate, I went with the rear sway bar a the same time so the ride is a lot stiffer and body roll has all but gone away. I have friends that autocross and am thinking about it.

the springs themselves are relatively cheap at $150-$225. this is also a mod that you can do yourself with basic hand tools and one specialty tool (that you can BORROW from advance via loan-a-tool program).

not everyone is confident enough to do it themselves and thus the labor charge to have them put on.

Um, you have to have it up on a LIFT to do this; not just a car jack... Not all of us GURLS have car lifts in our garage, nor the tools, nor the requisite skills.

Nor the desire, for that matter.

Seriously, I wouldn't widely recommend this as a DIY job; it looked quite complicated, at least in the front, when the mechanic walked me around.

Estimated four hours of labor. FORGETABOUTIT. But I do think it's a "fail" for Toyota. The last mechanic remarked, "It does ride high, doesn't it???"

[BEEF]

I did this with my car jack in my driveway (which was gravel) laying on my back. no lift required. I didn't say it was comfortable. I said it was doable.

most of my tools are chinese crap (working on that). you would also need a step by step guide...oh that's right. (please refer 2 posts back)

what exactly would you recommend as a DIY job? you have used the excuse that you are a girl though we have female members that have done this very modification themselves.

amazingly, you come to a forum devoted to the YARIS and call it a "fail". they are extremely hard to find in my area and when you do, you pay for them dearly. toyota doesn't discount them and can't keep them on the lot. what exactly is your definition of fail?

if you dislike it that much .......SELL IT!!!!!!....