Yaris officially pronounced garbage by U.S. NEWS

[roxy1]

I just traded my yaris for a 2015 corolla. I was simply ready for more room and more sedated highway cruising. the corolla is using an "old" platform and the same engines in all but the eco plus model. however, having owned a 10th gen corolla for 3 years, i can say the interior and NVH(even on the base model) is so far ahead of where it was its hard to believe.

using the same engines and platform for a long period lends itself to long term reliability/durability. my opinion is that the yaris suffers from having the most spartan looking interior in its class and a poorer than average noise/overall harshness intrusion into the cabin.

if I had not gotten the deal I wanted, I was perfectly fine driving the yaris for a long time because I trusted it to do what I needed for a long time.

still, I think with the next gen a better interior, a sheetmetal change, and a cvt that boast something like 32/42 will be a big help. imo, the platform and engine could remain.

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by roxy1

I just traded my yaris for a 2015 corolla. I was simply ready for more room and more sedated highway cruising. the corolla is using an "old" platform and the same engines in all but the eco plus model. however, having owned a 10th gen corolla for 3 years, i can say the interior and NVH(even on the base model) is so far ahead of where it was its hard to believe.

using the same engines and platform for a long period lends itself to long term reliability/durability. my opinion is that the yaris suffers from having the most spartan looking interior in its class and a poorer than average noise/overall harshness intrusion into the cabin.

if I had not gotten the deal I wanted, I was perfectly fine driving the yaris for a long time because I trusted it to do what I needed for a long time.

still, I think with the next gen a better interior, a sheetmetal change, and a cvt that boast something like 32/42 will be a big help. imo, the platform and engine could remain.

Wow. When dogs ride or a dog rides with you will he/she/they still be as comfortable ?

[roxy1]

Originally Posted by nookandcrannycar

Wow. When dogs ride or a dog rides with you will he/she/they still be as comfortable ?

it will be different. the 11th gen corolla added a lot of back seat space, so (if I travel with all 4) the 2 smaller dogs will be relegated to the floor behind the front seats. on the other hand, carrying them in the rear of the yaris meant giving up carrying much cargo, which wont be an issue now.

I should be a big SUV owner, but until they sell one for $16k and it gets 40 real world mpg on the highway, that's not happening.

[lenzomaru]

Originally Posted by roxy1

I just traded my yaris for a 2015 corolla. I was simply ready for more room and more sedated highway cruising. the corolla is using an "old" platform and the same engines in all but the eco plus model. however, having owned a 10th gen corolla for 3 years, i can say the interior and NVH(even on the base model) is so far ahead of where it was its hard to believe.

using the same engines and platform for a long period lends itself to long term reliability/durability. my opinion is that the yaris suffers from having the most spartan looking interior in its class and a poorer than average noise/overall harshness intrusion into the cabin.

if I had not gotten the deal I wanted, I was perfectly fine driving the yaris for a long time because I trusted it to do what I needed for a long time.

still, I think with the next gen a better interior, a sheetmetal change, and a cvt that boast something like 32/42 will be a big help. imo, the platform and engine could remain.

The road noise is really annoying at times, as where i live do not have the best roads.

[timothyone]

Here's a good example of the " the latest technology and features" that make cars like the Cruze more appealing to American car buyers! Now I understand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwQ0F0FDJts

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by timothyone

Here's a good example of the " the latest technology and features" that make cars like the Cruze more appealing to American car buyers! Now I understand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwQ0F0FDJts

. Made me think about the songs where Clear Channel stations change the lyrics. The one I hear most often is a line from The Steve Miller Band song 'Jet Airliner'. Clear Channel stations change the s**t in the line 'funky s**t goin' down in the city' to 'funky kicks goin' down in the city'.
these lyric changes have been going on fotr a long time,

This is a separate issue from 'The 2001 Clear Channel Memorandum' in which Clear Channel, after the 9/11 attacks, suggested to its stations that they not play 165 specific songs.

[fnkngrv]

At this point if Toyota is to continue to compete then they need to step up their game in the creature comfort area. period. doesn't matter if we agree or not. they are offering so much more around the rest of the globe yet they offer bullshit options in North America. totally don't understand their strategy here. reliability is increasing with all of the players out there so Yota needs to step it up honestly. The Yaris platform is very dated sad to say and the drivetrain is 15 years old now. I suppose one could argue that GM had a 40+ year run with their 350. I love my sedan but I doubt I will buy a Corolla to replace it as a DD later this year. At this point I am fixin to defect from Yota altogether since it looks like the Taco is going to be a disappointment too.

[Jcp123]

Echo/Yaris are at home in urban areas. The road noise isn't a big deal for me; the crappy seats are.

Most of what makes these cars good won't show up in anything but a long-term test. It took about a year, but the Echo went from one of my most hated cars, to one which I would gladly purchase again if the 9th gen Rollas weren't so much easier to find and a better value!

[timothyone]

Toyota has installed a very sophisticated anti-road noise system in the later model Yaris, the controls of which sit in the center of the dash, just above the heat-A/C controls. It even comes with a very useful intensity control knob. Properly adjusted it prevents me from hearing any outside noise.

[428CobraJet]

Ive twisted the knobs on that contraption. Found its effectiveness decreases with speed. ..absolutely no effect above 50mph no matter how hard Jimmy Buffet is trying.

[momaterials]

i dont believe that a Spark is better than a Yaris ,not true

[Flammable]

Originally Posted by momaterials

i dont believe that a Spark is better than a Yaris ,not true

I second that!

[fnkngrv]

Originally Posted by Flammable

I second that!

I 3rd that. If I was to stay in the economy compact segment there would have to be some serious custom upgrades for me to even consider a GM in the segment. Even then I would only consider.

[Flammable]

Originally Posted by fnkngrv

I 3rd that. If I was to stay in the economy compact segment there would have to be some serious custom upgrades for me to even consider a GM in the segment. Even then I would only consider.

I am the same way, I would consider a Ford before a GM. The Spark has some reliability issues from what I have heard.

[fnkngrv]

Originally Posted by Flammable

I am the same way, I would consider a Ford before a GM. The Spark has some reliability issues from what I have heard.

My biggest curiosity is why with today's manufacturing facilities GM doesn't bother to take the honest blame that they cut corners and do not perform dye diligence when engineering parts as well as proper QA on parts from 3rd parties. Especially when those 3rd parties have noted defect issues in the past.

[Gogogordy]

Can I say where US News will place?