The battle of the Droids??!

[Black Yaris]

iPhone..... /story :)

[Shroomster]

Originally Posted by Black Yaris

iPhone..... /story :)

lol troll!

j/k...
in all fairness, iPhones are great for what they do, but suck for what they don't.

open source?
ease of sharing info/data with other non-apple products/i specific devices?
removable/user replaceable battery?
factory warranty/insurance?
long-term life of use/retrofitting 'outdated' products with new software?

(some of these things are debatable [I KNOW]) but seriously, the iHype is way too out of control, people shouldn't be selling their children (really) to get computers....

[Kal-El]

Originally Posted by Black Yaris

iPhone..... /story :)

I could never go back to a tiny phone like the iPhone®. The small screen coupled with the awkward real estate space above the screen looks old fashioned.

And still no 4G? Seriously? Apple® is only 2 years behind.

[Black Yaris]

all I hear from all my friends that are droid users is how bad the battery life is, and how they have lots of freezing problems. I laugh at how many of them call there phones "shitty". the whole 3g and 4g is very negligible, we saw very little difference from a Thunderbolt and my iphone4 in speed... and we were both using verizon

[Shroomster]

Originally Posted by Black Yaris

all I hear from all my friends that are droid users is how bad the battery life is, and how they have lots of freezing problems. I laugh at how many of them call there phones "shitty". the whole 3g and 4g is very negligible, we saw very little difference from a Thunderbolt and my iphone4 in speed... and we were both using verizon

I'm not gonna lie about this:

If you have ZERO knowledge about using a smart phone or a computer, then an iPhone is the best choice.

people who buy android phones usually know what they are getting into, and have some sort of idea about how they are going to set up the phone to work best for them.

an iPhone is just click this and click that and yay it works.....

an android gets customized to the individual. EVERYTHING has settings and those settings have settings. odds are if you're friends are complaining about battery, then they didn't spend the time getting to know the phone and just expected it to mold to their hand the instant it came out of the box.

iPhones are pretty much idiot proof in that if you can slide your finger, you can use this phone.

No offense to your friends whatsoever, as I've been on here long enough to get jists of the senior members like yourself and I figure you and your friends aren't 'dumb' phone users.

[tomato]

There is another reason why you might want an iPhone. If the camera part of the phone is important to you, then you might want to have a look at the iPhones, especially the newest one that just came out. These little iPhones take impressive photos in my modest opinion.

But as soon as the new Samsung Galaxy running on ICS (Google's latest) comes out, iPhones will have serious competition in that regard. They've done some huge improvements on shutter speed, etc.

[tomato]

@shroomster : settings about settings is right!!! especially true for people running Cyanogen. Cyanogen unleashes a whole other layer of settings you didn't know existed!! I'm still digging through them and trying to get familiar with them all!

For the main user just getting a new phone from a carrier, depending on which phone they get, the manufacturer's skin may or may not be user friendly. As I remember, there was a bit of a learning curve with Sense UI, but that is not always the case for all Android phones. So the only way to know is to go play with them and see if you like the interface. Only a few phones run vanilla android. Most others have a user interface, plus customizations from the carrier, on top of it.

[Kioshi]

I hate to disagree w/ you Black Yaris. But Android phones, once people learn how to utilize their full potential...they can be a serious threat to iphone users.

Mine runs circles around the iPhone 4, seriously. Compared just by simple tasks, not quadrant scores and its more fluid and quicker and responsive. Thanks to Cyanogen and an onslaught of memory/davlik freeing up mod/s.


Yes, I love the camera lens on the iPhone and the sleek design.

All in all, Android phones are like....modding a car. And iPhone, well, they are for people who just want a phone, kind of like how majority of the people that buy nice cars...really dont know how to drive them or keep them in running condition. Of course, there are the people that jailbreak their iphone, i commend those people

@ tomato - try out ICS for your phone. The latest version for my phone, the gallery is AWESOME. Although, a few FC here and there but overall smooth operating now. I just need a working gps, mms, and camera and...I'm set.

[tomato]

a working GPS would be nice. I can deal with lesser KB (it's actually very much like the KB on my iPod Touch ) and lesser camera controls of CM 7.1 compared to Sense UI but my GPS doesn't work, even after applying the fix and that's kind of a deal breaker to me. I guess I'll be trolling the forums on my spare time to see if peeps have found a workaround, otherwise ... I really need my GPS working! Several applications I have rely heavily on it, not to mention I rely heavily on it to get around!

BTW, what do you use for international keyboard?

PS. I've seen ICS in person. Personally, I think it rules. Best Android OS hands down.

[Shroomster]

Originally Posted by tomato

a working GPS would be nice. I can deal with lesser KB (it's actually very much like the KB on my iPod Touch ) and lesser camera controls of CM 7.1 compared to Sense UI but my GPS doesn't work, even after applying the fix and that's kind of a deal breaker to me. I guess I'll be trolling the forums on my spare time to see if peeps have found a workaround, otherwise ... I really need my GPS working! Several applications I have rely heavily on it, not to mention I rely heavily on it to get around!

tomato, see if the rom for the evo 3d by developer "LeeDrOiD" works for your evo, his roms always have everything working.....hands down one of the best devs on there and he is constantly tweaking for many phones. I switch between his rom for the sensation and NRGz28's Energy rom.....

[Kioshi]

Originally Posted by tomato

a working GPS would be nice. I can deal with lesser KB (it's actually very much like the KB on my iPod Touch ) and lesser camera controls of CM 7.1 compared to Sense UI but my GPS doesn't work, even after applying the fix and that's kind of a deal breaker to me. I guess I'll be trolling the forums on my spare time to see if peeps have found a workaround, otherwise ... I really need my GPS working! Several applications I have rely heavily on it, not to mention I rely heavily on it to get around!

BTW, what do you use for international keyboard?

PS. I've seen ICS in person. Personally, I think it rules. Best Android OS hands down.

The GPS isn't working on your CM7 version? Try downloading and flashing an older version tomato. I am still running CM7 2.3.5 version because 2.3.7 version does not sync my past events on the calendar from 2010 to new 2.3.7 version. SO i gave up, and went back to older version.

You are lucky to see it in person. What pisses me off is that Verizon is an asshole company. Google Wallet will not be usable on the Galaxy Nexus for Verizon because Verizon wants to implement Issu? Their own version of it. <-- Stupid....oh well, hope CM9 makes it usable..I will not let Verizon keep track of my transactions My main reason for getting a Galaxy Nexus was because of the NFC via Google Wallet mobile payments.
Google needs to punch Verizon in the face for this~

I use Simeji keyboard. Its a little better when typing english on it compared to stock Gingerbread keyboard on CM7. Although, ICS has international languages built into its single keyboard and converts when needed... :)

Originally Posted by PK198105

Kioshi what's your phone again? Im waiting on the fully stable release of Cyanogen Mod 9 which should be early January by what they are hinting. Worst case scenario I started to learn how to make ROMs myself so Ill just cook one up. As for the iOS vs Android, one is made for people who just want stuff to work and dont care about what's on their phone as long as it works....and who like to overspend...and Android is for people who actually like to know what's going on inside their phone and who are eager to learn new stuff. It is already bad that people rely so much on smartphones these days and companies like Apple are not helping the situation by dumbing down their products so. I remember back in like 2000 if something broke or wasn't working properly on your computer you would actually try and fix it yourself, format this, repartition that, set permissions, etc.. Now is:" Waaaaa my computer/phone/toilet doesn't work lets send it back to Apple and they'll just tell me to buy a new one". It is my opinion that instead of making us smarter, these things are actually making us dumber and lazier. I understand why companies do it though, to maximize their profits but in the end they are just contributing to the end of human civilization. As an example, I have a friend and she is a teacher at one of the local high schools and each time I see her she tells me how bad kids' writing has become, they write like they text and get angry when told it's incorrect. Anyways ICS is awesome and I really like that they finally bridged the gap between phone and tablet, no more Apple talk about fragmentation. Again I don't hate Apple just what they represent...an "elitist", I'm better than everyone else because I own an overpriced and shiny piece of same tech as everyone else.

Use indentation PK,

I have an HTC Incredible.
PK, try out the latest versions of ICS, its really good aside from the random reboot every 60 mins or so. They are daily drivers. No GPS, camera, and a few other things, but def can browse web, download from market, use gallery (on and off), and one more thing..which i forget.

I agree with your iOS vs Android comment.

[tomato]

Originally Posted by Kioshi

The GPS isn't working on your CM7 version? Try downloading and flashing an older version tomato. I am still running CM7 2.3.5 version because 2.3.7 version does not sync my past events on the calendar from 2010 to new 2.3.7 version. SO i gave up, and went back to older version.
You are lucky to see it in person ...

I think GPS is working now. Somebody had the same issue and posted a fix. I wish I could paypal some pizza money to that dev. Seriously. With GPS working, the ROM is amazing.

[Shinare]

Since I'm about to step into the smartphone arena for the first time, I've been reading some of the posts in this thread the last couple pages. I'm thinking about getting the Galaxy S II 4G for t-mobile for myself and getting a pair of HTC Wildfire S phones for my wife and daughter. It's interesting reading about ICS and Cyanogen, where can I learn more on the how's and why's of applying these ROMs and the pros/cons of such? Thanks!

[tomato]

Originally Posted by Shinare

Since I'm about to step into the smartphone arena for the first time, I've been reading some of the posts in this thread the last couple pages. I'm thinking about getting the Galaxy S II 4G for t-mobile for myself and getting a pair of HTC Wildfire S phones for my wife and daughter. It's interesting reading about ICS and Cyanogen, where can I learn more on the how's and why's of applying these ROMs and the pros/cons of such? Thanks!

whaaaaa ?!! Only a couple of pages? No, no, no, no, that won't do!! You have to read the whole thread!!!


kidding!!

Well, you're in the right thread on here. Some of the members here are very knowledgeable about Android, ROMs, hardware and all things android.

here are a few links to get you started:

XDA http://forum.xda-developers.com/ (huge forums for Q's about all android phones, ROMs, etc.)

http://www.cyanogenmod.com/ Cyanogen Mod is the most widely used ROM for those phones. You can follow them on facebook, Google+ as well.

There are others who cover all things android:

http://www.androidcentral.com/

http://www.androidpolice.com/

I don't keep up with them all, but those should get you started. You can also go on Google + and #android

Google + is brilliant for stuff like that
Hope that'll get you started

[33OH]

I just finally switched from being a faithful Android user of 2 years to an iPhone 4. I just couldn't take the battery life anymore. I'd tried countless ROM's, apps, techniques, etc. to no avail. I had a Droid Eris at first and switched to the Droid Incredible when they came out and couldn't get more than 4-5 hours of battery life out of either phone, even with an extended battery.

Do I miss the Android? Heck yes. But I do get a good 24 hours of battery life out of my new toy. :)

[Kioshi]

Originally Posted by 33OH

I just finally switched from being a faithful Android user of 2 years to an iPhone 4. I just couldn't take the battery life anymore. I'd tried countless ROM's, apps, techniques, etc. to no avail. I had a Droid Eris at first and switched to the Droid Incredible when they came out and couldn't get more than 4-5 hours of battery life out of either phone, even with an extended battery.

Do I miss the Android? Heck yes. But I do get a good 24 hours of battery life out of my new toy. :)

HOW????????? I have a Droid Incredible. I have classes from 9am-9pm and leave the house at 7am. I surf, take pics, listen to music for straight 70 mins (riding train to school). Unless you are in a classroom/place where there is low signal, then yeah...it seems possible to kill the battery that quick.

At the end of the day, my phone has about 8% left right when i get to my car from train station. Using original battery that came w/ the phone, stock.

To you set min/max in CPU settings? I have my brightness a level up from the lowest setting when using the notification bar to set brightness (from left to right).

[33OH]

Originally Posted by Kioshi

HOW????????? I have a Droid Incredible. I have classes from 9am-9pm and leave the house at 7am. I surf, take pics, listen to music for straight 70 mins (riding train to school). Unless you are in a classroom/place where there is low signal, then yeah...it seems possible to kill the battery that quick.

At the end of the day, my phone has about 8% left right when i get to my car from train station. Using original battery that came w/ the phone, stock.

To you set min/max in CPU settings? I have my brightness a level up from the lowest setting when using the notification bar to set brightness (from left to right).

I'm in Amish Country, Ohio - the signal is always low.

Yes I messed with the min/max settings, brightness was all the way low (0%), and I ran Cyanogen.

[Kioshi]

Originally Posted by 33OH

I'm in Amish Country, Ohio - the signal is always low.

Yes I messed with the min/max settings, brightness was all the way low (0%), and I ran Cyanogen.

Ah, I see. I guess there isnt a mod for increasing signal on cell phones.....yet.

I would have still helped you achieve max battery life though