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Old 11-23-2008, 01:06 PM   #1
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Obviously you have never worked at a dealership. Dealer holdback is not what I am talking about. I am talking about the backend is what the dealer gets from GM...... it has nothing to do with the consumer. There is an average backend on a Silverado of a few grand too. Do you really think a dealer is only going to make 1500 on the holdback? That would not cover the overhead.

We would offer the Bowling Green delivery to customers who requested it. Personally I think you are just a wanna be ..... all mouth ....... as I read through I see more and more links and references. You are just full of stories yet you claim to have had all these cars....... didn't you mention that the yaris is a single season car and you have also owned Before that I owned a 2007 Acura TL Type S. I've also owned three Accords, a Taurus SHO and two 5.0 Mustangs - all purchased new..... and you now go to a Yaris? Either you have more money than brains or you have a trust fund.


Get a life.

Where is the picture of the Yaris with the vette?
My Yaris is presently having a stereo installed in it, as documented elsewhere on this site. I'll snap a photo of it next week; meanwhile, here's the purchase and sales agreement (with sensitive info folded over/blanked out).

I'm also posting a pic of my Acura TL Type S; as you can see, the plate is the same as what I've got on my Corvette. That's because I traded the Acura for the 'Vette.

I bought the Yaris because I wanted a nice, small, economical, front drive car to offset the 'Vette, which I purchased as a "summer car."

So far, EVERY accusation or claim you've made has been readily disproved by me. Hint: DROP IT; you won't win.



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Old 11-23-2008, 09:35 AM   #2
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Still think it is funny that you can go buy a 15 year old TSI Talon, slap a boost controler and AFC for $1500-2000 and blow the doors off that vette
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Old 11-23-2008, 09:45 AM   #3
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Still think it is funny that you can go buy a 15 year old TSI Talon, slap a boost controler and AFC for $1500-2000 and blow the doors off that vette
Here's a TSi similar to what you've described; it needs a mix of 110 octane leaded racing fuel in order to trap @ just 111 MPH:

http://www.dragtimes.com/Eagle-Talon-Timeslip-6229.html

The modified TSi would have to trap @ 117 MPH or so through the 1/4 mile and go on to a top speed of 190 MPH in order to stay even with the 'Vette in a straight line over any appreciable length of time. (AWD gives the TSi and advantage off the line.)

Neither the TSi's brakes nor suspension are remotely competitive with the Corvette's.

Here's a TSi similar to what you've described; it needs a mix of 110 octane leaded racing fuel in order to trap @ just 111 MPH:

http://www.dragtimes.com/Eagle-Talon-Timeslip-6229.html

Almost anything will go if you throw enough boost in it and use the required racing fuel. How durable it will be is another question altogether, though.
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Old 11-23-2008, 10:11 AM   #4
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Here's a TSi similar to what you've described; it needs a mix of 110 octane leaded racing fuel in order to trap @ just 111 MPH:

http://www.dragtimes.com/Eagle-Talon-Timeslip-6229.html

The modified TSi would have to trap @ 117 MPH or so through the 1/4 mile and go on to a top speed of 190 MPH in order to stay even with the 'Vette in a straight line over any appreciable length of time. (AWD gives the TSi and advantage off the line.)

Neither the TSi's brakes nor suspension are remotely competitive with the Corvette's.

Here's a TSi similar to what you've described; it needs a mix of 110 octane leaded racing fuel in order to trap @ just 111 MPH:

http://www.dragtimes.com/Eagle-Talon-Timeslip-6229.html

Almost anything will go if you throw enough boost in it and use the required racing fuel. How durable it will be is another question altogether, though.
true...... I just find it funny that kids around these parts buy these cheepo cars and drive around looking for Vette's, Mustangs and what not and whomp all over them from light to light

as for durability, DSM's FTL
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Old 11-23-2008, 12:33 PM   #5
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I am still waiting for you to accept my invitation....??????? Let's do it! All these articles are good for a laugh but let's see the rubber hit the road.
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Old 11-23-2008, 01:25 PM   #6
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He might not win but I will. Let's go.....I am ready to snot on an LS3 as my 4th or 5th choice of summer car. Let's set it up!!???? I mean, how could you lose going up against the puny, whimpy e30 M3. It's not fast???? It'd be like racing somebody in a Yaris, right? I am waiting to hear back from you....to see if you will stand by your "objective documentation."
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Old 11-23-2008, 02:54 PM   #7
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Your should have kept the Acura
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Old 11-23-2008, 04:21 PM   #8
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Your should have kept the Acura
It handled like a boat, its brakes were sub-par (undersized rotors and noisy pads) and fuel economy was poor (for a V6 powered car).

The front end of the car would actually float and porpoise when driven with any enthusiasm. My two Accords were even worse in that regard. Honda has lost its way in suspension tuning.

The Acura's interior was its greatest strength.

What I should have done is traded the Acura for a 335 iX (AWD) BMW instead of buying the Corvette/Yaris pair.

I still like the Yaris, though.
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It handled like a boat, its brakes were sub-par (undersized rotors and noisy pads) and fuel economy was poor (for a V6 powered car).

The front end of the car would actually float and porpoise when driven with any enthusiasm. My two Accords were even worse in that regard. Honda has lost its way in suspension tuning.

The Acura's interior was its greatest strength.

What I should have done is traded the Acura for a 335 iX (AWD) BMW instead of buying the Corvette/Yaris pair.

I still like the Yaris, though.
I'm surprised but I had heard it was a rough riding car.... The Yaris will be like a go-kart to you with the TRD set up...... and dam near as economical,
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Old 11-23-2008, 06:44 PM   #10
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I'm surprised but I had heard it was a rough riding car....
That's the joke with the Acura.

My Corvette actually rides better than the Acura over many surfaces.

Yet, the Acura still bobbed and floated when driven hard.

The entire suspension was wrong.

The rear was OK in terms of springs and dampers, but it needed more rear bar (too much understeer).

The front needed more spring and even more in terms of damper - particularly rebound.

There wasn't a hint of aluminum in that suspension, either. The front lower control arms and uprights were cast, solid steel.

The car cornered pretty flat and felt reasonably well planted on the open highway, but at best it was nothing more than "a good highway cruiser."

The TRD Yaris is a much better balanced car. The Acura had more lateral grip, but that's solely due to wheels/tires. (I'm running the stock steel wheels and R92 tires on the Yaris.)

The Acura had a nice stereo (Panasonic ELS, which was standard OEM.) It also had nice seats a nice dash layout with decent materials. It was also fairly quiet.
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Old 11-23-2008, 03:46 PM   #11
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So uhm... what's with all the e-peenery? This is a site about the Yaris. No need to spew testosterone everywhere.

E30 M3. Cool car. Vette. Cool car. can we move on?
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Old 11-23-2008, 04:30 PM   #12
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Have you driven the IX? It's a DOG for the money...
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Old 11-23-2008, 06:46 PM   #13
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Have you driven the IX? It's a DOG for the money...
The 335 Xi runs 0 - 60 in ~ 5.6 seconds and upper 13 second/104 MPH quarter miles.

That's enough to put it on par with the typical, production line stock 426 street hemis from '68 - '71 and enough to SMOKE and old E30 M3 without even trying.

So I wouldn't call it "a dog."

My 'Vette will smoke it, but the BMW is a much nicer car overall.
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The 335 Xi runs 0 - 60 in ~ 5.6 seconds and upper 13 second/104 MPH quarter miles.

That's enough to put it on par with the typical, production line stock 426 street hemis from '68 - '71 and enough to SMOKE and old E30 M3 without even trying.

So I wouldn't call it "a dog."

My 'Vette will smoke it, but the BMW is a much nicer car overall.
You are friggin hysterical man.....what happened - did you run out of magazine articles? Not only would I walk on XI....I would absolutely eat it alive on a racetrack.
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yeah this thread has gone too far. If you guys wanna keep comparing dick sizes, do it in private, this is a Yaris forum, we're all the same size
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