Toyota sandbagging the Yaris - Page 3 - Toyota Yaris Forums

Hershey · 07-20-2010, 12:48 AM

Here's an example : 2008 base sedan w/ automatic ; 2 people , 89 octane , tires at 35 p.s.i. , Shell 5w-30 conventional , 84 degrees , winds of 20+ m.p.h. , many hills , and average speed of 48 m.p.h.. Mileage is actually little more . Likely closer to 44 . The ECO-METER is set at 98 and reads lower than the calculated fills of gas and miles . Setting of 99 reads too high . No in betweens .

KRAZGRL · 07-20-2010, 03:57 AM

I pretty much always get about 35-38mpg. I blame soCal traffic and driving up hills (it's not flat here) for not breaking the 40mpg mark. I may take the car to Vegas... I'm really interested in how it will do.

firemachine69 · 07-20-2010, 08:54 AM

EPA estimates are based on normal ass-hat style "stomp-go-brake" driving.

With the A/C on.

On an engine that isn't even fully broken-in.

bronsin · 07-20-2010, 09:51 AM

Just FYI: no one stops for stop signs in NJ! Just check it out!

marcus · 07-20-2010, 01:12 PM

37mpg here,, slightly heavier rims and tire set up.

wsladaritz · 07-20-2010, 01:23 PM

question: How are you figuring the mpg? I set the trip meter to 0 when I fill up. On the next fill up I divide the miles by the gallons put into the tank. According to that method the best I have every gotten was 38.... and that was just once. I generally get around 31-34. I kept track for about the first 2 years. But I haven't been keeping track for about 1 1/2 years now.

Is that how you are calculating mpg's? Or are you using a tool that gives constant updates to your mpg? Like 127.0.0.1 said about getting 348 rolling down the driveway, but if you were driving up a hill it would display something much lower... like 20 something or maybe. Cause I know my sisters Envoy has all that fancy computer stuff measuring all that for her and I can get it to display 80+ under the right conditions. But I can also get it to display 6.

The little red pill · 07-20-2010, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by wsladaritz

question: How are you figuring the mpg? I set the trip meter to 0 when I fill up. On the next fill up I divide the miles by the gallons put into the tank. According to that method the best I have every gotten was 38.... and that was just once. I generally get around 31-34. I kept track for about the first 2 years. But I haven't been keeping track for about 1 1/2 years now.

Is that how you are calculating mpg's? Or are you using a tool that gives constant updates to your mpg? Like 127.0.0.1 said about getting 348 rolling down the driveway, but if you were driving up a hill it would display something much lower... like 20 something or maybe. Cause I know my sisters Envoy has all that fancy computer stuff measuring all that for her and I can get it to display 80+ under the right conditions. But I can also get it to display 6.

Exactly! I average about 33-36 driving very easy and rarely use a/c, mostly highway driving at 60mph. I question the techniques of some of the people who go 75 mph+ with a/c going that claim 40+ mpg. I'm very specific about my recording technique and have been through Calculus II in college so I know my calculations. lol

auxmike · 07-20-2010, 09:55 PM

I've not broken 32mpg in 2+ years of ownership.
I'm getting a steady 30 mpg and that's with A/C on everyday this summer.
The best I ever got on my '97 Saturn twin cam was about 28mpg on a 1.9L engine. It was a stick shift, BTW.
I guess the 5 speed makes a huge difference....

firemachine69 · 07-21-2010, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by The little red pill

Exactly! I average about 33-36 driving very easy and rarely use a/c, mostly highway driving at 60mph. I question the techniques of some of the people who go 75 mph+ with a/c going that claim 40+ mpg. I'm very specific about my recording technique and have been through Calculus II in college so I know my calculations. lol

Ambient temperature plays a HUGE factor in fuel economy, I've noticed the 1NZ-FE is particularly sensitive to incoming air temperature, when it comes to overall fuel-economy.

Steveh27 · 07-21-2010, 11:17 AM

My first check of mpg was on a 120 mile stretch of I94, going 74 mph using cruise control with the AC on. It was in the mid 80's outside. I write down the odometer reading when filling the tank. I got 39.6 mph.

Tires had 32 psi.

In town I've gotten between 33.5-36 mpg.

127.0.0.1 · 07-20-2010, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wsladaritz

question: How are you figuring the mpg? I set the trip meter to 0 when I fill up. On the next fill up I divide the miles by the gallons put into the tank. According to that method the best I have every gotten was 38.... and that was just once. I generally get around 31-34. I kept track for about the first 2 years. But I haven't been keeping track for about 1 1/2 years now.

Is that how you are calculating mpg's? Or are you using a tool that gives constant updates to your mpg? Like 127.0.0.1 said about getting 348 rolling down the driveway, but if you were driving up a hill it would display something much lower... like 20 something or maybe. Cause I know my sisters Envoy has all that fancy computer stuff measuring all that for her and I can get it to display 80+ under the right conditions. But I can also get it to display 6.

scangauge and consistent fill-up procedure and setting the scangauge with
actual gas pumped in to 1st click. pretty durn accurate

brg88tx · 07-20-2010, 01:27 PM

my guess is toyota sandbagged the yaris so it wouldn't take away prius sales.

Happy Little Pony · 07-20-2010, 09:32 PM

The EPA changed its testing criteria after the 2007 model year. My 2007 was rated at 40mpg highway. Under the new standards, it only rates 36. Check it out at http://www.fueleconomy.gov

For what it's worth, I can generally beat 36mpg in city driving. I can get above 40 on the highway without any tricks, dangerous or otherwise.

yarrr · 07-21-2010, 12:35 AM

hahaha. Sorry to everyone in this thread, I searched ebay for panty untwisters to no avail.

I hold by my statement. Read redlittlepill and wsla's posts. You are all padding your numbers, or doing something unsafe. At least bailout admits he does dumb stuff like 60 psi and shutting the engine off going down hill.

The average driver won't drive enough city, won't drive enough long trips, and won't accelerate slow enough to ever see 40 mpg. Congrats if you do(and you aren't lying like 99% of people who feel the need to post their mpg on the internet).

SLIK4 · 07-21-2010, 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yarrr

hahaha. Sorry to everyone in this thread, I searched ebay for panty untwisters to no avail.

I hold by my statement. Read redlittlepill and wsla's posts. You are all padding your numbers, or doing something unsafe. At least bailout admits he does dumb stuff like 60 psi and shutting the engine off going down hill.

The average driver won't drive enough city, won't drive enough long trips, and won't accelerate slow enough to ever see 40 mpg. Congrats if you do(and you aren't lying like 99% of people who feel the need to post their mpg on the internet).

it sure isn't very nice to assume 99% of the people are lying. sounds to me like you are just looking to start something.

i can't speak for gas mileage because i don't keep track. but for toyota not showing commercials it's probably because the yaris is selling well enough for them that they don't need to spend the extra cash on advertisements.

wsladaritz · 07-21-2010, 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SLIK4

... toyota not showing commercials it's probably because the yaris is selling well enough for them that they don't need to spend the extra cash on advertisements.

I know the commercials sold me!!! I saw one during superbowl the year before they came out. I said to folks,"I'm gonna get me one of those! That car looks awesome!" 10-2006 I fulfilled my self-proclaimed prophecy!!

Hershey · 07-21-2010, 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yarrr

hahaha. Sorry to everyone in this thread, I searched ebay for panty untwisters to no avail.

I hold by my statement. Read redlittlepill and wsla's posts. You are all padding your numbers, or doing something unsafe. At least bailout admits he does dumb stuff like 60 psi and shutting the engine off going down hill.

The average driver won't drive enough city, won't drive enough long trips, and won't accelerate slow enough to ever see 40 mpg. Congrats if you do(and you aren't lying like 99% of people who feel the need to post their mpg on the internet).

it's no

. Being honest .

jambo101 · 07-21-2010, 09:31 AM

Just quoting my scangauge readings,Average fuel economy readings = 36-38 around town and 44 to 47 at 70mph on the highway.

07-20-2010, 12:48 AM	#1
Hershey Drives: 08 Yaris sedan auto / Fit auto Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: northeast Posts: 2,897	Here's an example : 2008 base sedan w/ automatic ; 2 people , 89 octane , tires at 35 p.s.i. , Shell 5w-30 conventional , 84 degrees , winds of 20+ m.p.h. , many hills , and average speed of 48 m.p.h.. Mileage is actually little more . Likely closer to 44 . The ECO-METER is set at 98 and reads lower than the calculated fills of gas and miles . Setting of 99 reads too high . No in betweens . Attached Images

07-20-2010, 09:55 PM	#8
auxmike Drives: 2008 HB, A/T, Power W/L/M Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: LI, New Yawk Posts: 2,063	I've not broken 32mpg in 2+ years of ownership. I'm getting a steady 30 mpg and that's with A/C on everyday this summer. The best I ever got on my '97 Saturn twin cam was about 28mpg on a 1.9L engine. It was a stick shift, BTW. I guess the 5 speed makes a huge difference.... __________________ Never take eyes off opponent - Bruce Lee

07-21-2010, 11:17 AM	#10
Steveh27 Drives: 2010 3dr hatchback auto red Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Grosse Pointe Woods, MI Posts: 82	my first drive My first check of mpg was on a 120 mile stretch of I94, going 74 mph using cruise control with the AC on. It was in the mid 80's outside. I write down the odometer reading when filling the tank. I got 39.6 mph. Tires had 32 psi. In town I've gotten between 33.5-36 mpg.

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firemachine69 School'er of hard knocks Drives: Silver Yaris 4dr. HB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Sudbury, On Posts: 556	EPA estimates are based on normal ass-hat style "stomp-go-brake" driving. With the A/C on. On an engine that isn't even fully broken-in.

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marcus toyota View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris RS Blazed Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: toronto, canada Posts: 3,637	37mpg here,, slightly heavier rims and tire set up.

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wsladaritz Y4R1Z View User's Garage Drives: Yaris LB Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Benton, AR Posts: 219	question: How are you figuring the mpg? I set the trip meter to 0 when I fill up. On the next fill up I divide the miles by the gallons put into the tank. According to that method the best I have every gotten was 38.... and that was just once. I generally get around 31-34. I kept track for about the first 2 years. But I haven't been keeping track for about 1 1/2 years now. Is that how you are calculating mpg's? Or are you using a tool that gives constant updates to your mpg? Like 127.0.0.1 said about getting 348 rolling down the driveway, but if you were driving up a hill it would display something much lower... like 20 something or maybe. Cause I know my sisters Envoy has all that fancy computer stuff measuring all that for her and I can get it to display 80+ under the right conditions. But I can also get it to display 6.

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brg88tx Drives: 07 Yaris Sedan, Auto Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: SE Texas Posts: 327	my guess is toyota sandbagged the yaris so it wouldn't take away prius sales.

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yarrr Banned Drives: 07 sedan Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: new mexico Posts: 292	hahaha. Sorry to everyone in this thread, I searched ebay for panty untwisters to no avail. I hold by my statement. Read redlittlepill and wsla's posts. You are all padding your numbers, or doing something unsafe. At least bailout admits he does dumb stuff like 60 psi and shutting the engine off going down hill. The average driver won't drive enough city, won't drive enough long trips, and won't accelerate slow enough to ever see 40 mpg. Congrats if you do(and you aren't lying like 99% of people who feel the need to post their mpg on the internet).

07-21-2010, 09:31 AM	#18
jambo101 Drives: yaris 08 sedan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Montreal Canada Posts: 1,286	Just quoting my scangauge readings,Average fuel economy readings = 36-38 around town and 44 to 47 at 70mph on the highway.