Does any other auto tranny Yaris owner regret not getting the MT?

[NZ-FE Vios]

Correct.

I've had clutches fail before and when they fail, it is near impossible to drive the car unless going downhill. If he is truly on original clutch, it must still be doing what it is required to do to function properly. Of course it has worn over all those miles, but engines wear as well, just because it has wear doesn't mean that it requires replacement or we'd all be continuously replacing all parts on vehicles.

A clutch is also considered a wearable part as are brakes and tires. If you burn your clutch under warranty, they won't replace it as it *should* last longer than 120k miles as it is never specified in factory maintenance manual as needing replacement. Longevity is based upon the quality of the driver.

[Mikeey01nzl]

No never......
It's the wifes car, she gets into it at the end of a hard days work and puts it into D, no brainer for her. O BTW it's a CVT too.

Fuel economy is a small price to pay for ease of driving for her.

[yaris2010RS]

everytime i get smell from mine (not often and not alot) im so scared, lol

i have never gotten smoke

[nemelek]

At one time in my life I thought that I would never own an auto. Now that I am an old fart I don't think that I will ever drive a stick again.

Had shoulder surgery 8 weeks ago on the right side and the auto was blessing. Not sure that I would have been able to drive a stick.

[Betrivent]

Double clutching also saves the clutch. No riding it, as well. The only time I wish I didn't have a manual is in traffic- but I avoid most traffic so it's all

[schume]

I prefer a MT on most vehicles, but I purposely bought my Yaris with the AT. I do a lot of freeway driving, but every once in a while, I get caught in Seattle stop-and-go traffic. Going through that with a MT is enough to make anyone crazy.

I'll take the MPG hit (if there is any) for the comfort of driving the auto. I must say, it is a nice shifting transmission.

[SilverBack]

Originally Posted by Betrivent

Double clutching also saves the clutch. No riding it, as well. The only time I wish I didn't have a manual is in traffic- but I avoid most traffic so it's all

+1. Also if you can familiarize yourself to the twitchy clutch, it definitely is a lot more fun to drive than an AT.

[mazilla]

I drive my MT Yaris from San Diego to Los Angeles and back 2-3 times a week(about 280 miles round trip). It takes me 2.5 hours to get there and about 3.25 hours to get home...I wouldn't trade the MT for an auto, especially now that I have the complete short shift kit.

[Zebra]

During the cold days I absolutely hate waiting for my engine to warm up and allow the AT into higher gears. On those days, I would love to have a MT. With that exception, AT is just fine for me.

[MadMax]

No way.

And as technology has been advancing, ATs are becoming more common, even in Europe. 10-15 years ago you'd never see them over there, when we took our 95 VW Passat over the Germans were surprised to see it was an AT. Now I see more and more autos when I go over there.

MTs are losing their small edge in performance and efficiency, if anything it won't be too long before they may disappear completely. In real performance cars they are getting rarer and rarer.

Enjoy your primitive clutching and manual gear changes, guys; I predict in ten years you're gonna be hard pressed to find cars with them!

[Yaristeve]

[QUOTE=MadMax;582897]MTs are losing their small edge in performance and efficiency, if anything it won't be too long before they may disappear completely. In real performance cars they are getting rarer and rarer./QUOTE]

My choice of MT has nothing to do with fuel economy, shifting speed, track times, efficiency, performance, etc. It is all about enjoying the act of driving. I've said this in other forums (and maybe here): there is nothing like setting up a perfect four-wheel drift after doing the perfect heel-and-toe through a corner. It is just so much fun and that is all there is to it.

So, I agree that new and newer generations of ATs will probably eventually outperform MTs in every objectively measurable way. But, unless they come up with a double-clutch, paddle shifter SMG system that can be overriden by a clutch pedal and four-(or five or six)-on-the-floor, I plan on keeping all of my MT cars forever or until the gasoline runs out.

[Connoisseur_of_fine_cars]

Originally Posted by MadMax

Enjoy your primitive clutching and manual gear changes, guys; I predict in ten years you're gonna be hard pressed to find cars with them!

I'm going to disagree. I think stick shift will make a come back. The reason is government imposed fuel efficiency of 54.5 MPG. Cars are going to get smaller and smaller. Cars are also going to get weaker and weaker engines, in order to meet gov't standard. A 54 MPG Yaris is going to be pretty dawn slow. For very underpowered cars, the difference in feel and performance can be huge.

Also, the bad economy today is not going to get much better anytime soon. People are going to demand cheaper cars with less accessories. Less power options, smaller rims, no ABS, less airbags, manual transmission, etc.

[daf62757]

Originally Posted by Connoisseur_of_fine_cars

I'm going to disagree. I think stick shift will make a come back. The reason is government imposed fuel efficiency of 54.5 MPG. Cars are going to get smaller and smaller. Cars are also going to get weaker and weaker engines, in order to meet gov't standard. A 54 MPG Yaris is going to be pretty dawn slow. For very underpowered cars, the difference in feel and performance can be huge.

Also, the bad economy today is not going to get much better anytime soon. People are going to demand cheaper cars with less accessories. Less power options, smaller rims, no ABS, less airbags, manual transmission, etc.

I would disagree with your assessment that they are going to make a comeback. As the ATs start coming out with 6 or more speeds, the fuel efficiency of having an auto will be about the same if not better. Then, the standardization of the manufactures will make make the manual transmission a museum item. You could make the same comparison to front wheel drive. Back in 1980, very few cars had front wheel drive. Today, you are hard pressed to find a car (not truck) that doesn't have FWD. At some point when technology and economy of size meet in the middle, the manual transmission will be remembered much like the buggie whip.

[krolos]

Owned other cars and pickups with Auto trans and I can tell you Yaris auto
performs very well, responsive when you need to merge in trafic and such and
does very well in hill and mountain country.

[joe keeney]

A t the best after a Dodge power wagon 11 inch clutch never again.

[joe keeney]

AT YOU GET A BAD BACK YOU'LL UNDERSTAND.

[thepartsmancometh]

the yaris is fine with an AT, but I couldn't imagine anything sportier with an AT. I drive an MT as my DD and don't find it bothersome even in heavy/construction traffic. Once you get used to it, its second nature. I strongly believe in having control over my vehicle.

and now...
to get on my soapbox....if everyone drove MT cars, there'd be less distracted/drunk/cell phone blathering idiots driving. it wouldn't eliminate them all, but its harder to do those things and shift at the same time!

[HTM Yaris]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^


My GF has a AT , every time I drive it I have to sit on my left foot b/c 30 years of driving MT I am used to a clutch and when I go to shift I hit the brake pedal and WHAMMO , my freakin head smacks the steering wheel ......not pretty