ECU pinout

[ChinoCharles]

The motivation is simply to literally try and think of everything you could possibly do to this car. You have to know your options. Would the retrofit be expensive? Sure. Impossible? Nothing is impossible. Work with good mechanics and you'll find that to be the case. I appreciate your concern, but nobody is coming out and saying "hey, I'm doing this." We're just learning.

[ChinoCharles]

I also said I would look into swapping much CHEAPER ITB's from, say, a wrecked bike.

[joey1320]

Originally Posted by ChinoCharles

I also said I would look into swapping much CHEAPER ITB's from, say, a wrecked bike.

k good luck with that!
will you be increasing the compression ratio or keeping it at 10.5:1?

[Nutzoids]

Found a Dyno

http://www.twminduction.com/Throttle...vs_itb_rsx.jpg

[ChinoCharles]

VTEC owns us.

Still, those are decent gains for one cheap setup. Notice that is without a tune! 110 octane is a little crazy, but still... looks good so far.

k good luck with that!
will you be increasing the compression ratio or keeping it at 10.5:1?

I will be going to bed shortly.

[Dragonacc]

Originally Posted by ChinoCharles

VTEC owns us.

Still, those are decent gains for one cheap setup. Notice that is without a tune! 110 octane is a little crazy, but still... looks good so far.



I will be going to bed shortly.

That's not without a tune. Otherwise the vtec crossover wouldn't be lowered and you can't just drop in 440cc injectors and expect your car to run right.

[acrbill]

Originally Posted by Dragonacc

That's not without a tune. Otherwise the vtec crossover wouldn't be lowered and you can't just drop in 440cc injectors and expect your car to run right.

Thats with a Hondata ECU. The fact that they are running that much octane on stock compression means they have an extremely aggressive timing curve.

[largeorangefont]

Please don't waste your time with ITBs on this engine.

[ChinoCharles]

Originally Posted by largeorangefont

Please don't waste your time with ITBs on this engine.

[eTiMaGo]

Originally Posted by largeorangefont

Please don't waste your time with ITBs on this engine.

Yeah not too many people like to take it ITB... But ChinoCharles is a bit of a masochist, and it would certainly be interesting to see what he comes up with.

[eTiMaGo]

Perhaps, but that's against his modding philosophy, which I guess could be summarized as "when your car's engine gives you lemons, make lemonade"

Everyone has their style, I guess... turbo, supercharge, NA tune, engine swap, all different paths to a same destination: more powar!

[ChinoCharles]

You spent $1400 on top of the $20,000 or so (at least) to have a car that was barely streetable and couldn't take a turn. Sure, smokes in a straight line, but if I wanted that I WOULD HAVE BOUGHT A MUSTANG. Oh, and you're also getting a rip-roaring 9 MPG.

I could spent $18,000 out the door to have a car that I can have a bit of fun with in ANY application... daily driver, road course, drag race, anything. Not a ton of fun, just a bit. Then I can drive home between 2500 and 3500 RPM and still get 30+ MPG. I'd take that over a Cobra with 308757297578 HP any day of the fucking week. Don't even have to think twice about it.

I've been in straight line fast cars and they do nothing for me, because you still have to slow your 3 tons of GM down to 25 MPH before you can even think about turning... wait a second, why am I arguing with you?

The fact is that people continuously come in my threads and regurgitate the same opinion over and over and over and over... when the opinion has little to nothing to do with the thread topic or this car at all. It has more to do with your personal outlook on fiscal responsibility and motoring in general, and thats great! You're entitled to your opinion. I hope it makes you happy. Having said that...

PLEASE STOP TELLING ME THIS SHIT IN MY THREADS.

Thank you!

[brickhardmeat]

I think it's cool what your doing and I'd like to see the outcome.

Sorry if I in any way came off like that.

Now get to work and let's see what you can do with it!

[largeorangefont]

Originally Posted by ChinoCharles

You spent $1400 on top of the $20,000 or so (at least) to have a car that was barely streetable and couldn't take a turn. Sure, smokes in a straight line, but if I wanted that I WOULD HAVE BOUGHT A MUSTANG. Oh, and you're also getting a rip-roaring 9 MPG.

I could spent $18,000 out the door to have a car that I can have a bit of fun with in ANY application... daily driver, road course, drag race, anything. Not a ton of fun, just a bit. Then I can drive home between 2500 and 3500 RPM and still get 30+ MPG. I'd take that over a Cobra with 308757297578 HP any day of the fucking week. Don't even have to think twice about it.

I've been in straight line fast cars and they do nothing for me, because you still have to slow your 3 tons of GM down to 25 MPH before you can even think about turning... wait a second, why am I arguing with you?

The fact is that people continuously come in my threads and regurgitate the same opinion over and over and over and over... when the opinion has little to nothing to do with the thread topic or this car at all. It has more to do with your personal outlook on fiscal responsibility and motoring in general, and thats great! You're entitled to your opinion. I hope it makes you happy. Having said that...

PLEASE STOP TELLING ME THIS SHIT IN MY THREADS.

Thank you!

Charles,

Don't get me wrong here, but you know nothing about my Cobra. Don't start up the ignorant babble that Mustangs, Camaros, etc can't handle. It is all in how you set up the car. The 99-04 Cobras have independant rear suspension, they handle well and ride excellent. I've spent most of the money on suspension components for open tracking, not drag racing. The car has coilovers, Brembo brakes, Delrin and urethane suspension bushings Kumho MX tires and a bunch of other stuff. The car handles very well, rides decent (considering it has solid bushings and a race style setup), brakes decent, and has a ton of power.

The new mustangs 05+ have proven themselves in sports car racing, and those cars have solid axles

I get over 20 MPG on the highway. Yes it gets crappy mileage in the city, but what high HP car gets GOOD mileage in the city? NONE. Yes it is a Ford, and yes it is crappy from a build quality perspective but thats not why I bought it. I bought it to go fast and have A LOT fun in. I would have had to spend multiple thousands on my previous car (stage 4 WRX) to get a fraction of the performance I get with the Cobra and hack up a perfectly good WRX in the process. I sold the WRX and got a platform that was easier and cheaper to build upon.

My car hangs with my friends STis EVOs, M3s and M5s on "spirited" runs without much trouble. In an autocross situation, yes my car isnt optimal, but any kind of open track event it is pretty badass.

That said, If my Yaris had another 100 WHP I would probably sell the Cobra.

Again Charles, I can appriciate input and dialogue on all possible mods. I understand that comparing mods between different cars is apples to oranges, but personally I don't see the point of spending lots of time and money to get 5 HP no matter how cool or innovative the mod is.That is just me. Above bolt on mods and some kind of tune modding this motor is a waste unless you are going to turbo it, or just swap in a better platform.

The Yaris engine isn't a case of making lemonade out of lemons, its a case of making chicken salad out of chicken shit.

It's reminds me of the Honda days 8-10 years ago when guys would spend $3000 on their b16 or b18 for Type R cams, throttle bodies, manifolds, valves, springs, retainers, pistons, etc. etc. etc. and get 15 HP. Then a guy with a turbo D series beats them.


Ashley

[ChinoCharles]

You didn't, and sorry I came off as a dick. This is just getting ridiculous with the 12 posts a day just naysaying on doing anything to a Yaris. I could understand if I was running around spending tens of thousands of dollars on my car and running into road blocks at every turn, but I don't. In fact, I spend the least of any of you...

EDIT: Pricing on the basic mechanical bits and pieces of the Danstoy ITB kit are $1000. This price gets lower in a group buy situation. It includes no standalone, only the mechanical parts. They said a 30 WHP gain is achievable.

Hm hm hm hm hm.

[turboyaris]

308757297578 HP

i dunno... thats pretty quick

[ChinoCharles]

Alright, alright... 308757297577 HP

[turboyaris]

if you did the ITB setup.... you could have a sicknasty hood scoop to vent the fresh air right in, that would get you 31 HP guarenteed... haha nah a fully built engine with ITB can do pretty well... they like it in the NSX world