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Old 06-30-2014, 05:20 PM   #1
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Mazda is making the 2015 model Yaris, how does Mazda make a Toyota car, secret partnership ?
The upcoming Mazda built subcompact (yet to be named - "Yaris" may be dropped, a least in North America), is not the 2015. It seemed originally slated for 2016 but I don't know why the '15 would be face lifted for 1 year. Either way, 2016 is the earliest we'll see this all new car from Mazda and Toyota.

This is a common joint venture to answer your question. For many years, companies have joined up to build cars together for economic reasons. For example, the Pontiac Vibe and Chevy/Geo Prism were both built by Toyota (Matrix and Corolla). Which is why they were one exception of reliable cars "from" GM. A current example of a Toyota joint venture is the Scion FR-S and Subaru BRZ. Nearly identical unfortunately. Subaru drivetrain, the rest Toyota. Saves both companies money.
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Old 07-01-2014, 01:30 PM   #2
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The upcoming Mazda built subcompact (yet to be named - "Yaris" may be dropped, a least in North America), is not the 2015. It seemed originally slated for 2016 but I don't know why the '15 would be face lifted for 1 year. Either way, 2016 is the earliest we'll see this all new car from Mazda and Toyota.

This is a common joint venture to answer your question. For many years, companies have joined up to build cars together for economic reasons. For example, the Pontiac Vibe and Chevy/Geo Prism were both built by Toyota (Matrix and Corolla). Which is why they were one exception of reliable cars "from" GM. A current example of a Toyota joint venture is the Scion FR-S and Subaru BRZ. Nearly identical unfortunately. Subaru drivetrain, the rest Toyota. Saves both companies money.
Actually the FRS and BRZ are a lot more than nearly identical. They are the same car. Just different climate controls, among other things. Besides, Subaru is owned by Fuji industries, whose parent company is Toyota. Scion, on the other hand, is directly owned by Toyota. Another example of this would this be Acura (i forgot which model) and Honda Civic. loosely identical though, but they are practically the same company.

A good example is the one you made, the Pontiac Vibe. Similar to the Isuzu Domani which is a rebadged Civic 96-00. Loosely identical too as the whole front and rear ends are different aesthetically.
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Old 07-01-2014, 01:33 PM   #3
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Acura is the luxury branch of honda motors. They are the same company. Much like Toyota and Lexus or nissan and infinity.
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Old 07-01-2014, 01:37 PM   #4
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It will be interesting to see what unfolds, as the existing platform delivers way more than it promises. And its under the radar.
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Old 07-01-2014, 02:57 PM   #5
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Toyota need new engines.
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Old 07-01-2014, 03:12 PM   #6
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Not so much new engine just maybe a choice of a 1.8 L with a 6 spd from the Corolla in an RS setup ...or even better a base all bones with just TRD stuff and engine ...that I would love to see.
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Old 07-01-2014, 03:21 PM   #7
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That would work. The engine is great. And we never have to worry about cleaning the back side of the valves.
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Old 07-01-2014, 04:03 PM   #8
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that "SE ASIA" sure looks like a Corolla....
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Old 07-01-2014, 04:05 PM   #9
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I want what we have just with the options I mention ...TRD spec Yaris with the optional 1.8 L ...2 door :)
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While the 1NZ still does great mileage given it's 15 years old, the yaris would achieve better mileage with direct injection.
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Yep...but we dont have to remove the intake and exhaust to clean the head. And we still do 115 to 120 mph.with a 17 flat quarter.
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And as awesome as the FiestaST feels.. .how will the drive train hold in 250k miles? Is the bottom much different than the Yaris? I hope so...double the torque double the hp.
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Old 07-02-2014, 12:32 AM   #13
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And as awesome as the FiestaST feels.. .how will the drive train hold in 250k miles?
Great question.....we already know the answer re the Yaris .
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Great question.....we already know the answer re the Yaris .
Ya know...sometimes the best tool ain't the sharpest tool in the box.
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Old 07-01-2014, 04:17 PM   #15
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I don't see any Mazdas with enough miles to tell if the Mazda route to heating the heads does away with the direct injection issues. Mazda seems to be the only company claiming a fix.
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I don't see any Mazdas with enough miles to tell if the Mazda route to heating the heads does away with the direct injection issues. Mazda seems to be the only company claiming a fix.
I don't hear about Mazdas with tons of miles on them either....but I also don't hear about a lot of problems either....except of course with the RX series.
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I don't hear about Mazdas with tons of miles on them either....but I also don't hear about a lot of problems either....except of course with the RX series.
Apparently only the Speed3 had DI - and was problematic. But the new line of engines are way different. And it looks like the Germans are causing most of the alarm. VW Group and BMW. Making everyone question DI.

meanwhile. ..my Yaris keeps saving me money. :-)
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