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10-27-2008, 11:58 PM | #73 |
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The fit looks just like the yaris. If the yaris wasn't so well built and a toyota I'd have bought a fit. But Toyota in my opinion still makes a better built vehicle. As a mechanic friend said to me. Toyota puts more metal into what they build and their tolerances are more refined.
As gas milage goes. I still get 40+ with both my yaris's. |
10-28-2008, 12:06 AM | #74 | |
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Fully loaded yaris or a Fit Sport (No nav), same price, the Fit is MORE car... If you don't like it (or Honda), just say it... Both economy cars are becoming less economy priced. |
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10-28-2008, 12:33 AM | #75 | |
Drives: 07 Yaris / 09 Fit sport Join Date: Jun 2007
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well said i couldn't agree with you more. as for MPG the yaris has a leg up but not by much. might be because of ot's dohc vs the fits sohc or it might be that the fit for 09 has 117 hp vs yaris what is it exactly 106 hp i think. everyone know more hp means less mpg. also if nobody doesn't know the fit manual trans for 09 got over hauled for more zippy driving. which means bad gas milage. so many factor i don't know either. also anyone looking at the ratings don't it's all bull. everyone drives different. i get over 40+ mpg on my Fit. just depends on how you drive. for instance when i drove harsh i got 35 mpg then another time i drove harsh i got 37 mpg. i drove easy and got 43 mpg. the yaris saden i got i drove easy i got 42 mpg. i drove harsh i got 33 mpg. so far these are my finding. coming from a guy who has both cars. |
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10-28-2008, 12:40 AM | #76 | |
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I'd like to know where you got your info from on the drag coefficient of .30 for the fit? cause i have been searching since before the car was on sale in the us. I know all the people on FF would like to know also. cause they can't find it. please state your source. |
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10-28-2008, 06:58 AM | #77 |
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10-28-2008, 07:28 AM | #78 |
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There is not one car on the road that EVERYBODY is going to like. I happen to love the looks of the Yaris hatch, and I also happen to love the looks of my new 2009 Phit Sport w/Nav. I have never owned a car which is so well-designed, safe, and so space efficient! It has room FOR DAYS! I love the "magic seats" which allow the back seats to easily flip UP, giving you all the room on the flat floor. Those Honda engineers are SMART!
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10-28-2008, 08:16 AM | #79 |
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I like the new Honda FIT more than the previous and I like both of them overall, better than the Yaris, but I'm not paying 2-3,000 more for a car similarly equipped to our Yaris which also gets worse FE. This car segment is all about saving money for most people and until Honda Canada puts their prices inline with the Yaris, they will continue to lose sales based on price and FE alone.
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10-28-2008, 08:32 AM | #80 |
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[QUOTE=niko3257;157745]I'd like to know where you got your info from on the drag coefficient of .30 for the fit?
QUOTE] i went here: http://automobiles.honda.com/informa...relations.aspx i called them ealier this year when i was looking into the fit and the corolla as my next car. i also could find absolutely nothing about the cd on the fit, which i found odd since its not hard to find this info somewhere on most cars. the person i spoke with could not answer my question, so took my email and said she would get the answer from a tech person. i got an email about 2 or 3 days later. admittedly. it was something to the effect of "thank you for your inquiry. it appears the drag coeffieint for the new fit is .30." in fairness, perhaps i should not have stated it as a pure fact. to be honest, i wasnt too confident in the validity of that answer, but at the time i figured it must be one reason why the fit wasn't rated higher on the highway. if the fit was more slippery than a yaris, why would none of the fits be rated as high as the yaris manual, and only one of the fits (the base auto) be rated as high as the auto yaris? also take into account the the automatic base fit runs at lower rpm's on the highway than the yaris automatic, so something is keeping the highway mpg from being any higher. i understand that frontal area may play a role in additon to the cd, so perhaps the fit is taller and/or wider than the yaris. or maybe its more simple (i.e. the yaris engine is just more fuel efficient than the fit engine) it may be nitpicking, since i think driving style will dictate who gets 40 mpg and who gets 35 mpg given the same route. i believe if i drove any fit, i could achieve very close to the same numbers as i do in my corolla and at least come very close to what i did in my yaris. |
10-28-2008, 09:32 AM | #81 |
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Folks - Please - Listen. My '09 Fit Sport is rated at 28 CITY and 33 HWY.
I am getting well into the 40s on the highway. Better than my Yaris LB at the same speeds on the same highways. I don't know how to be more clear. FIT > YAIRS in MPG. Many folks on FitFreak are reporting similar MPGs. http://www.fitfreak.net/forums/2nd-g...ports-yet.html Toyota needs to wake up and smell the coffee that Honda is stealing from them. Honda has made a more refined car, with better HP, room and MPG. Granted at a few $1000 more. It also has better options like - Cruise control, NAV, TCS, VSC, 7 airbags standard. Come on... The Yaris is cute compared to the Fit, but the fit is a way better car in every other aspect.
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10-28-2008, 09:35 AM | #82 |
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this is interesting. out of curiosity, i decided to see if i could get linked directly to a technical support person at honda. so, i called the above referenced contact number. the rep put me on hold to see what she could find out from a tech person, but would not let me speak directly to one. after about 4 minutes, she came back and read this, verbatim, to me:
"Because of the many different methods of calculating drag coefficients, Honda Motor Corporation chooses not to publish these numbers." i guess that is the reason why nobody can find this information on the net. i have found this info on every car i have researched except the fit, though i was provided with a cd number for the 09 fit (as discussed above) this summer. ive seen cd numbers on older civics. its an odd stance they are taking on this. |
10-28-2008, 09:47 AM | #83 | |
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the facts are: the yaris is rated higher in mpg than the fit. many yaris owners are getting outrageous highway mileage. i do not hypermile and i got an average of 42.38 mpg's (over a 13 month period) on a suburban commute which included traffic lights and stop signs, and 3 months of that was michigan winter. there are too many 09 fit owners who are not achieving great mileage. i have found , more consistently, yaris owners who get great mileage. bottom line. the fit is an overall better car. it should be as it costs a fair amount more than a yaris. the yaris beats the fit more consistently in mpg. i have a couple friends who drive fits (2007 and 2009 models). it seems that they cant accept that the yaris beats the fit at one single thing. they both paid $4000 more than i paid for my yaris ($12800). i tell them its ok, to accept that they paid more and got a better car with a bit fewer mpgs....and RELAX... if you wanted a cheaper car with higher mpg's..should have bought the yaris. |
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10-28-2008, 10:51 AM | #84 |
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I have gotten great highway miles in my Yaris. Over 46MPG. You could see my posts except for the YW site crash. The only thing is my Fit got 46.6mpg on the highway using cruise control at 65MPH. My scanguage tells me that my Yaris just can't pull those numbers unless I'm hypermiling. If I hypermiled the Fit it would most likly get in the 50s, which I only got once in my Yaris, going 55MPH with cruise control on a fairly flat highway.
The Fit's 5 speed auto may be responsible for the great MPGs.
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10-28-2008, 11:12 AM | #85 |
Drives: 07 Yaris / 09 Fit sport Join Date: Jun 2007
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i don't know where you guys are getting these figures from?
this is as per honda site usa. base fit mt 14,550 base fit at 15,350 sport fit mt 16,060 sport fit at 16,910 as per toyota site which only had these base yaris 3 door mt 13,715 base yaris 5 door at 15,174 no sport manual to compare? sport yaris at 17,874 now these toyota figures are configured to match what the fit has. but yaris still doesn't have enough option to compare exactly. there is no base 5 door manual either so i used 3 door. as you can see numbers are really close. and to those buying sport 5 doors you are paying more. 17,874 yaris vs. 16,910 fit. thats a total 964 difference. thats some rims to me. i don't know about you. |
10-28-2008, 01:44 PM | #86 | |
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I know I'm getting a unpopular around here from all the Fit talk, but I'm just amazed at how great the car is. My little Yaris just doesn't compare AT ALL. I hate to say it, but it's quite true. I can't even say the Yaris gets better MPGs, beecause it doesn't.
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10-28-2008, 02:20 PM | #87 |
Drives: '08 Yaris sedan , '08 Liftback Join Date: Oct 2008
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many people here are bullheaded and narrow sighted . Why such hatred over the car you drive is beyond me . IT'S A CAR !!! Show some .
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10-28-2008, 02:29 PM | #88 |
Drives: 2007 Yaris/2009 Phit Sport Join Date: Jun 2007
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I love my new Phit too! Owning both the Yaris (which I still love, so don't jump down my throat!) and now the Phit I can tell you without any hesitation that the Phit is a better car. It is quieter, it handles better, brakes shorter, is safer, and has much more useable room inside.
I also love the orange color. Do you? |
10-28-2008, 05:38 PM | #89 | |
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And the 4 door thing, um ya - NO.
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