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Old 06-21-2007, 10:56 PM   #1
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How big of wheels without modifying suspension?

Hello! The thing I don't like about my Yaris Sedan is how thin the tires are. I would like to get thicker tires without doing anything to the suspension. I would like 205's or 215's. Can I get 16 inch wheels or would the gap between the tire and the wheel well look funny? What is the biggest tire I can go with without doing any modifications to the car?
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Old 06-21-2007, 11:17 PM   #2
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Here is what I want to get. What do you think?

Helo Spec HE792
16 x 7.5 42 offset
4 x 100 bolt pattern
BF Goodrich Traction T/A 215 50 R16
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Old 06-21-2007, 11:33 PM   #3
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you can go WAY bigger than that... please click my signature
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Old 06-21-2007, 11:35 PM   #4
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if you want to go big you are going to want to stick with 15's that is going to give you the most amount of width... also do you ever plan on lowering it? if so you there are a few things to consider
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Old 06-21-2007, 11:39 PM   #5
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I don't plan on lowering the yaris. I am going to be driving the yaris on an interstate highway everyday also, so I was thinking 215 is as thick as I should go? I like the idea of 16's, but what do you think?
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Old 06-21-2007, 11:40 PM   #6
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Here you go:

Stock 15's are 185/60/15 (23.7").

With no mods, you can run 205/55's (23.9") on the stock 15" rims.

If you want to do a JDM plus 1, then you should run 195/50/16's (23.7").

Here in the States, most run 205/50/16's (24.1"), which I would recommend if you're not lowering the car.

As long as you run a high offset (at least 42mm, preferably 45mm), the wheel gap won't look silly. The trick is to keep the tires tucked rather than flush with the fenders.
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Old 06-21-2007, 11:44 PM   #7
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It sounds like black yaris and kimon54 know what they are talking about! They must have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
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Old 06-21-2007, 11:49 PM   #8
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The stock 15's just look really small on the yaris. That is why I was asking about the 16's. Maybe a bigger wheel makes the whole tire look bigger?
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225/50R15 is the widest 15 you can go and run it with a + 38 on no larger than a 8 in wide wheel
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Old 06-21-2007, 11:52 PM   #10
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my car 17's not lowered
in black
in silver
15's also not lowered
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Old 06-21-2007, 11:53 PM   #11
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BTW, the cobalt in the above pic has the 15's on it from the 3rd pic
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Old 06-21-2007, 11:55 PM   #12
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Would a 205/55/R15 give the appearance of the physically largest tire diameter from the side? I guess what I am getting at is I want to
a) put the biggest tire/wheel on the yaris to fill the gap between the wheel well and tire and stills stay within that 3% range, but not touch the suspension

b) drive it down the interstate without being uncomfortable with every bump I hit

b)
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Oh, all the other posts appeared just as I posted mine.

Let me make a few more comments then:

If you run 16x7.5's, ET42mm, and a 215/50/16 (24.5"), then your setup will stick out approx 18mm more than stock 15's. Up front you'll be pushing the outer limits, and in the rear you'll be fine.

You'll close up the wheel gap a bit with the taller 215/50 tires, but the remaining wheel gap (and it will be significant) will be visually accentuated because you're setup won't be tucked especially up front.

If you don't plan to lower the car and you want it to look right, then I would recommend a 7" rim at most with a 42-45mm offset.

You could run an aggressive staggered setup if you like with 205's up front and 215's in the rear. That would keep the tires tucked a bit and would look great!
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Old 06-21-2007, 11:59 PM   #14
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what size of tires do you have on your 17's and 15's? What are the wheel sizes and offsets? To me both the 17's and 15's look nice! I was also looking at the Polo Spy 17's, but I couldn't find anywhere online what the offset is for them or even if they have the right bolt pattern.
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Old 06-22-2007, 12:02 AM   #15
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Hey Black Yaris, what's with the black then silver 17's on your car in the pics?

Did you paint your wheels black?
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Old 06-22-2007, 12:06 AM   #16
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The black and silver wheels are the same wheels on the black yaris?

If I were to go with 16's or 17's, how would it affect my gas mileage and will it wear out my wheel bearings faster than if I had 15's?
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Old 06-22-2007, 12:17 AM   #17
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I don't believe there will be any significant difference in gas mileage, nor do I believe the wheel bearings will suffer a significantly shorter life whether you run 15's, 16's, or 17's, just so long as you run proper offsets that don't put undue stress on the suspension components.

But as a daily driver, you'll probably enjoy a better ride with the 15's and 16's and perhaps avoid potential wheel damage with taller sidewalls.
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Old 06-22-2007, 12:18 AM   #18
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black yaris - What kind of wheels are those 17's? They look much better than the stock wheels on my yaris sedan. Do they have those in silver 15's or 16's?

kimona54 - How do you know so much about tires and wheels?
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