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Old 06-27-2006, 09:13 PM   #1
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wow i expected alot more if it is only that much mpg (32ish american mpg) ill start heading back to the xb... by the way what rpms are you revving when your at 80 mph

I know this goes back to the beginning of the thread, but if I didn't miss something I can answer this. I bought my S in Mankato, Minnesota and drove it home to Maine. I was usually cruising around 75-80mph (this was right around 3500 rpm) on the trip home and was able to achieve 446 miles right before the final eight of a tank began to blink. I was able to pull into a gas station 6 miles later and filled up. I put in 10.1 gallons for the first tank that I had. Do the math and that is 44.15mpg! I was amazed since the quoted I has seen was at 40 highway not to mention that I had the A/C max kicked ont he dial with the fan at 3. I have now placed around 2600 miles on my Yaris and have a total average over the "life" thus far at 39.6mpg. I drive 11 miles each way to work and my in town driving nets me around 5-12 miles a day. All in all very impressed. I did notice that I do get a couple more miles to the gallon if I use a/c rather than have the windows down.
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Old 06-28-2006, 08:00 AM   #2
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Keeping your windows down will put drag on the car and thus poorer MPG than running your A/C.

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Old 06-28-2006, 02:03 PM   #3
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Keeping your windows down will put drag on the car and thus poorer MPG than running your A/C.

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Is this true?!?!?

I know the additional drag doesn't help but is it really worse than running the AC?
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Old 06-28-2006, 08:31 PM   #4
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Is this true?!?!?

I know the additional drag doesn't help but is it really worse than running the AC?

It is worse than AC at higher speeds like highway, personally I only roll my windows down if I'm going 45mph or lower yeah sometimes I go above but I personally make it a point to only have them both down or one down when I'm below 50mph...because the lower the speed the lower the drag...there's drag no matter what speed you go but obviously as stated before the higher speed you go the more drag...I see (during the summer) plenty of people on the highway driving 65-70+mph with there windows down...I shake my head only if I can pull them over and show them the light Enough of my novel you get the point
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Old 06-28-2006, 10:07 AM   #5
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Of course I'm right, and you're too dumb to acknowledge it.
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Old 06-28-2006, 10:43 AM   #6
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Of course I'm right, and you're too dumb to acknowledge it.
Dude, you can't honestly think I'm dumb. Why don't you just drop the ad hominem bullshit and debate me like the intelligent person you clearly think you are?

Anyway, so you stand by the claim that a vehicle (a FFV, I would assume) using E85 would get 85% worse gas mileage than a gasoline counterpart? So for instance a bespoke FFV Yaris would get 6mpg on E85 instead of 40mpg? This would match your claim that a car sees a reduction in mileage equivalent to the percentage of ethanol in the fuel.
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Old 06-28-2006, 11:08 AM   #7
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according to that argument, ethanol is then basically just a filler with no fuel properties whatsoever.
i think in the article that i read, it stated that ethanol was 80% as effecient as gasoline.
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Old 06-28-2006, 11:12 AM   #8
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Ok fellas, keep the thread ontopic. NO NAME CALLING. NO REASON TO BASH EACH OTHER, we are all in this together. Pleae keep the thread clean. Thanks everyone!
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Old 06-28-2006, 08:37 PM   #9
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A good analogy is NASCAR where cars try to draft in order to conserve gas but stay at top speed.

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Old 06-29-2006, 01:11 PM   #10
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how does aftermarket rims affect gas mileage generally?

should i get 14inch or 15inch.. would 14inch rims looks way too small?
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Old 06-29-2006, 01:14 PM   #11
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how does aftermarket rims affect gas mileage generally?

should i get 14inch or 15inch.. would 14inch rims looks way too small?

I have the 5 spoke S model 15s and let me tell ya....I honestly think that they look too small....might.....just might.....look aight if you dropped the car 2 inches, but at stock height...small.
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Old 09-07-2006, 02:56 PM   #12
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I have the 5 spoke S model 15s and let me tell ya....I honestly think that they look too small....might.....just might.....look aight if you dropped the car 2 inches, but at stock height...small.
If you ever decide to upgrade your wheels, let me know.
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Old 06-29-2006, 01:55 PM   #13
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how does aftermarket rims affect gas mileage generally?
i imagine there would be some small improvements depending on how much lighter the wheels are compared to the stock steel wheels.
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Old 06-30-2006, 12:44 AM   #14
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stock 14" steel wheels and the 175/65/14 tires weigh ~30lbs per corner... its not easy to get lighter than that without spending a lot of money.

my fuel economy has probably gone down ~20km/tank with fatter tires, heavier wheel/tire setup. time will tell, as i drive them some more and do more fillups
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Old 07-01-2006, 11:06 PM   #15
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I found a product which has a lot of backup and testing and claims pretty fair fuel economy and performance for little money.

http://www.ecotekplc.com/

I am going to buy one at some point to try it.
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Old 07-02-2006, 01:35 AM   #16
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Consumer reports tested a ton of products like that, as well as a few other reports.. then did not find a single device or additive that improved anything, and in fact some of them made things worse. Don't belive everything on the internet..

As they pointed out, if there was an additive that could improve your milage or power like they claim, gas compainies would have added it long time ago.. just think - if one brand gas gave you more milage than another brand, they would be marketing and selling it like crazy, and people would buy it over another brand (and it wouldn't realy cost huge gas comanies anything to add the same stuff thats sold aftermarket).
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Old 07-02-2006, 12:41 PM   #17
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Going along with what Tankota said, not only is it really a scam and if it did work others would jump on board namely the oil companies...also since gas has risen and its an "issue" at least in the U.S. cause we're spoiled brats but anyway you want to be weary about these things as I'm sure they will bank on our mentality of saving gas and doing whatever it takes including being desperate about it. I'm sure this is open season for these kinds of products since gas has risen, and you have to study or look at how they word things as well...like implying their product boosts a great deal amount when it might not...anyway you get the point.
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Old 07-04-2006, 04:57 AM   #18
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I found a product which has a lot of backup and testing and claims pretty fair fuel economy and performance for little money.

http://www.ecotekplc.com/

I am going to buy one at some point to try it.

yeah, and i got a car that runs on water I'll sell ya
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