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Old 12-09-2008, 05:05 PM   #1
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And then little things like the seat belt getting hung up on the seat lever, and what's with the hatchback? I have to unlock it to use it (not so the Swift)? What's with all the little velcro strips? And everything falls out (oh, yeah; I'm supposed to buy the "net" to hold stuff in)? No excuse for this; bad design.
What's wrong with the hatchback? why wouldn't you have to unlock it to use it? I would feel very insecure if it wasn't locked, then anyone could open it if I was at a stop light or if my car was parked. I've also only noticed 2 velcro strips, for that thing that hangs in the back, which I removed and put in a closet at home because I don't see a use for it, are there any more strips?
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Old 12-09-2008, 08:02 PM   #2
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Daewoo Suzuki Swift; huh? Mine was a 2000 GS two-door hatch; my little Silver Bullet. From the minute I drove it (actually, from the minute I drove the 1997 Geo Metro that I had before this; it's the same car), I loved it...

This one; eh... The Swift's design was absolutely sublime; nothing extra and nothing superfluous. I almost feel like they added the cup holders and bottle holders (notice that you aren't supposed to cross-utilize the two; little signs tell you not to) and coin holders and MP3 jacks and white plastic next to grey plastic just to make you feel you're getting more for your money; feels "busy."

And then little things like the seat belt getting hung up on the seat lever, and what's with the hatchback? I have to unlock it to use it (not so the Swift)? What's with all the little velcro strips? And everything falls out (oh, yeah; I'm supposed to buy the "net" to hold stuff in)? No excuse for this; bad design.

Those of you who love it, all I can say is: obviously you never owned a Swift.

I did own a swift... like i said (if you actually read what i said earlier) i used to have a 93 swift sedan before my yaris sedan. And i can tell you every little detail that i hated about MY swift. But that's not the point....
I would say you just bought the wrong car at the wrong moment.... Your 2000 swift was probably more reliable than my 93, but this is very relative to many different things... so let's not talk about it anymore.



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What's wrong with the hatchback? why wouldn't you have to unlock it to use it? I would feel very insecure if it wasn't locked, then anyone could open it if I was at a stop light or if my car was parked. I've also only noticed 2 velcro strips, for that thing that hangs in the back, which I removed and put in a closet at home because I don't see a use for it, are there any more strips?
outtahere used to have a 2000 swift.. those hatchbacks has a "trunk release" lever inside.. just like how the yaris sedan is... you pop the trunk like you would "pop" the hood.

I'm surprised that he had no mentioned anything about the center seat belt that hangs from the roof.
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Old 12-09-2008, 08:19 PM   #3
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If I could add my 2 cents for a second.
I have looked for a yaris with the specs i wanted for about a year. It was secondhand, i am the second owner. Yes, it gets from pointA to pointB efficiently, and such. Although I complain that the interior looks cheap, mine came w/o side airbags, and the 2009 HB's look awesome, i should'nt complain. This car replaced my 2004 wrx wagon, and that was my first new car purchase. It was one of those gotta have cars, well for me anyway. Things needed to be replaced, and i have about 45k invested in my wrx including purchase.
It sits at home, driven only a few times a month, including auto-x.
That said, the yaris is a great daily commute car, albeit a no-frills economobile.
But with the few mods i have planned, it should stay with me, until i can find a newer LB.
The biggest concern people should consider is maintenance in the next 4-5 years. How will the yaris hold up, AS a cheap entry level car?

P.S.- I too love suzuki swifts. Just not the POS that they sold here in the US.
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Old 12-10-2008, 10:16 AM   #4
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I'm surprised that he had no mentioned anything about the center seat belt that hangs from the roof.
First, I'm a girl... And second, yes, I LOATHE that seat belt hanging from the roof!!! As for all the cupholders, interior room, etc., I'm a total minimalist who strives for the most efficient use of the smallest space possible, whether that's in my car, office, or home, so "roomy" is not a good thing for me...

I virtually never carry more than one passenger and would be driving a Smart today if it weren't for the fact that I currently do a lot of interstate driving...

Hence, the tiny, close-to-the-road Swift suited me perfectly and just seemed so much more "user-friendly," somehow. I agree it will be interesting to see how the Yaris holds up over the long haul. I can't see it lasting 10+ years??? But I'll keep an open mind...

Sorry to sound so negative; obviously there are things I like about the car (I agree it's cute as can be), or I wouldn't have chosen it over all the others available... I guess I just wish they hadn't discontinued and then altered the Swift (SRX is way too big and expensive now), but que sera, sera. So of all the subcompacts available (and I just did another cars.com search), Yaris still rules the "cheap, small car"...

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Old 12-10-2008, 12:24 PM   #5
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I've also only noticed 2 velcro strips, for that thing that hangs in the back, which I removed and put in a closet at home because I don't see a use for it, are there any more strips?

What do you mean you removed it; where are those strips supposed to attach, and what's their purpose??? I can fit so little back there, really, that I'm tempted to just fold down the back seat (don't use) and make it all storage, accessible from the front doors. If you saw a photo of the Swift interior, you'd see just how unnecessarily COMPLICATED the design of the Yaris interior is in comparison. The exterior, no complaints, though. Cute...

Although that antenna is going to make it hard to throw a kayak on top...

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Old 12-10-2008, 12:49 PM   #6
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What do you mean you removed it; where are those strips supposed to attach, and what's their purpose??? I can fit so little back there, really, that I'm tempted to just fold down the back seat (don't use) and make it all storage, accessible from the front doors. If you saw a photo of the Swift interior, you'd see just how unnecessarily COMPLICATED the design of the Yaris interior is in comparison. The exterior, no complaints, though. Cute...

Although that antenna is going to make it hard to throw a kayak on top...

Inside the hatch there's supposed to be a sort of hanging cover that has some fabric that attaches to those velcro strips, don't you have that? I think it's what toyota calls the "Liftback storage cover", I got tired of removing it every time I wanted to put down the seats and found no use for it, so I put it away for the time I decide to sell/trade in the yaris.

I looked at several pictures of the swift and it didn't seem to have that much more room in the back, but I could be mistaken, anyway, if you don't use the backseats then put them down, that's what I've done all week, although I usually prefer having them up, I rarely carry anything that wouldn't fit in the hatch, unless I take the dog out.

I don't think the yaris is a bad car, it just doesn't seem to be the right car for you, it happens, but if you really can't get used to it, I would advise you to get rid of it, it will save you a lot of heartache and stress.
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Old 12-09-2008, 03:20 PM   #7
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My only regret is I can't afford 2 car payments, and thus can't put the Yaris in a time capsule so I can enjoy it for the rest of my life. I mean, it was my first new car. Sentimental value.
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Old 12-09-2008, 03:21 PM   #8
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love it.

i was in near luxury before with my jeep grand cherokee limited v8... but the gas sucked.. so we sold it and bought the yaris.. havent regreted it yet! love the little car.. cant stop playing with it! great gas mileage!
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Old 12-09-2008, 04:07 PM   #9
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I just don't understand how you can't love the fact that a 4 passenger car has 7 cup holders.. what's not to love about that?
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Old 12-09-2008, 05:00 PM   #10
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I just hit 1000 miles and am coming up on two months of owning it. So far I am still mighty happy with it. Thus far, I haven't run into any disappointments with it. I constantly find myself taking things apart on it and marveling at how well it is designed for serviceability.

This weekend I got to drive it in snow for the first time (with its stock Eagle LS tires). I was pleasantly surprised with how well it handled in snow. Sadly, I think it does better than my overpowered and too-wide tired Xterra.
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Old 12-09-2008, 08:26 PM   #11
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I love my yaris... .Used to drive a Mitsu Magna before, great car nice pick up, but sucked petrol like there's no tomorow.... But, I love my yaris.... its the best car that I have owned (out of 4 cars... Ford Corsair, Daihatsu Charade, Mitsubishi Magna)... Couldn't have made a better choice
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Old 12-09-2008, 09:29 PM   #12
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I love my yaris... .Used to drive a Mitsu Magna before, great car nice pick up, but sucked petrol like there's no tomorow.... But, I love my yaris.... its the best car that I have owned (out of 4 cars... Ford Corsair, Daihatsu Charade, Mitsubishi Magna)... Couldn't have made a better choice
OHHHH, Daihatsu charade. My "gonna have one day" car!
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Old 12-09-2008, 09:33 PM   #13
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I love my xB now, after I had my Yaris..... but I would go back to a 5 door in a heart beat!
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Old 12-09-2008, 10:16 PM   #14
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if i tolr you i hated my yaris, it would be a lie... yeah its has its ups and downs, but you have to learn to appreciate what you have... there is just something about toyotas that other companies dont bring to the table... many people bash this car but this is the only car(stock yaris) that i know that can keep up with a (my friends)90 honda accord with header and intake and still save gas while enjoying the race
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Old 12-09-2008, 10:16 PM   #15
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I agree with otterhere about Yaris VS Swift.
I've looked at 2008 Swift (it's called SX4 now) too before I bought 2009 Yaris 5-Door.
Suzuki, Subaru, and Toyota are all sold at the same dealer here.
They offered such a good deal on fully loaded Swift Sedan (MSRP of about $18k) would be almost the same price as 5-Door Yaris with just power package ($15,835).
Yes, much below invoice price... I think it was left over for a long time.
Swift was a lot more stable, firm feeling, quiet, more power, and much better car for the same amount of money.
It had 17" aloy wheels, the cover between the tires and fender (makes big difference on the noise), so many speakers (7 or 8?), and etc.
But I still went with Yaris instead because of the exterior and the interior design, the resale value, and the Toyota reputation.
So, if otterhere doesn't like the design and doesn't care about the brand then, then Suzuki would've been much better car for him.
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Old 12-09-2008, 10:19 PM   #16
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I agree with otterhere about Yaris VS Swift.
I've looked at 2008 Swift (it's called SX4 now) too before I bought 2009 Yaris 5-Door.
Suzuki, Subaru, and Toyota are all sold at the same dealer here.
They offered such a good deal on fully loaded Swift Sedan (MSRP of about $18k) would be almost the same price as 5-Door Yaris with just power package ($15,835).
Yes, much below invoice price... I think it was left over for a long time.
Swift was a lot more stable, firm feeling, quiet, more power, and much better car for the same amount of money.
It had 17" aloy wheels, the cover between the tires and fender (makes big difference on the noise), so many speakers (7 or 8?), and etc.
But I still went with Yaris instead because of the exterior and the interior design, the resale value, and the Toyota reputation.
So, if otterhere doesn't like the design and doesn't care about the brand then, then Suzuki would've been much better car for him.
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Old 12-09-2008, 10:52 PM   #17
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$12,400. 114MPH top speed. 43 MPG city. 39 MPG highway. Great value easily up-graded in the trouble spots. I've always bought Corrollas in the past so I didn't pick up on the seats short commings on long trips right away. I usually only commute in it but I am going to install racing seats for the occasional gas sipping road trip. Its my 5th new Toyota so I knew what I was getting into.
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I'm still happy with it...still puts a smile every fill-up...
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