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Old 04-12-2006, 12:32 AM   #1
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when is the sedan coming out??
Our local dealership has had a couple of sedans but no liftbacks yet...
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Old 04-16-2006, 07:21 PM   #2
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Most new cars bought in the USA are auto's, I think it might be as high as 80%. If they do get a lot of manual orders then they'll make more.
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Old 04-17-2006, 12:07 PM   #3
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Most new cars bought in the USA are auto's, I think it might be as high as 80%. If they do get a lot of manual orders then they'll make more.
Right. That's why it's important for people to actually place orders instead of pissing and moaning that the cars they want aren't just magically appearing out of thin air. Deposits are refundable, people.
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Old 04-17-2006, 12:22 PM   #4
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bitching and moaning without action is the american way!
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Old 04-17-2006, 07:24 PM   #5
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Ok, i would'nt have to bitch and moan if they'd just do things the right way and not have to make us all pre-order our damn cars. And who cares if the deposites are refundable, thats not what i was talking about. We wouldn't need to get our refunds if Toyota would just produce more damn 5 speeds and less auto's. Plus, for toyota to produce more 5 speeds would be cheaper for them anyway, Just look at the price difference between 5 speed and auto, its like a $1000 difference (just off the top of my head without checking, although im sure someone will look it up for us all, someone always deos). Hows that for bitching and moaning. Im pretty damn good at it. :)
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Old 04-17-2006, 08:24 PM   #6
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Ok, i would'nt have to bitch and moan if they'd just do things the right way and not have to make us all pre-order our damn cars.
If they get pre-orders they don't have to guess about demand. Again, if you want a manual, order one. If the car gets here and you don't like it, don't buy it and get your deposit back. It's pretty simple, really.
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Old 04-17-2006, 07:26 PM   #7
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As stated, very few manuals get sold in the USA. They would be wasting money making too many manuals.
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Old 04-17-2006, 07:27 PM   #8
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point taken, people just need to learn how to drive sticks, lazy ass's
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Old 04-17-2006, 07:33 PM   #9
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I agree with that completely.
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Old 04-18-2006, 01:33 AM   #10
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i hope this car turns into a girls car just for the fact that the guys will get the 5speeds


jk girls can drive stick too (mine) OH!

and by that i mean my gf
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Old 04-18-2006, 09:23 AM   #11
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Just read the entire thread (no work today), and I can't believe that Toyota has so completely misread the U.S. market. I guess they did not see the growing interest in the performance sub-compact field.
My experience in purchasing my Yaris is as follows:
Friday - inquired about the availability of '06 RS hatch-backs (5-speed) - the sales manager got on the computer and located 3 on dealer lots in Ontario, he got on the phone to each of those dealers to see if they were willing to part with them.
Tuesday - sales manager called to say that the dealerships had responded - one was sold - did I prefer a 3 or 5 door???
Wednesday - after thinking about it overnight (and taking one last look at the Fit) I told Toyota I would take the 3-door with B-pkg.
Thursday - after seeing the pics of Echo's car with the lowering springs, asked the dealer about availability - he said IF I ordered then they would be at the dealership next day, plenty of time to be installed for a Saturday delivery.
Friday - car and springs arrived at my dealer.
Saturday - 10:00 A.M. delivery!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 04-18-2006, 09:28 AM   #12
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In reference to my last post, at no time did I make any sort of deposit. BTW ...... I wanted an '06 because of the better interest rate, but at the same time the sales manager checked on the availability of '07s and was able to locate which cars were "landed" and which ones were still "on the water".
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Old 04-18-2006, 11:39 AM   #13
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it seems wierd that they wouldn't stock many manuals, especially with a small car, i always thought the two went hand in hand, to get the most fun out of a small engine, you need a stick.
also, it seems like toyota is aiming the american release as stictly an entry level car (they scrimped on a tach for christs sake), so wouldn't the people buying them want them to be as cheap as possible?

like ricko, i had no problem when i got my car last november, i had a 6 day wait to get it, although if i was fussy about the colour, i would have had to wait another week to get the colour i wanted.

it seems like they are a bit under-stocked for the u.s. release of this car, i think americans are in the mood for smaller cars, and i think toyota missed the boat here.
apparently in canada, suv sales went up this past year, rather than down like in the u.s. (we are regressing here in the north).
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Old 04-18-2006, 12:20 PM   #14
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Like "stuffy", I really am totally mystified by Toyota's attitude towards the U.S consumer. Are we really that different???? Perhap's there is no need for a block heater in S.Florida, but for the most part the needs/desires of American and Canadian buyers are the same. Don't we both value saving a dollar, look at driving as more than just transportation, and find the rules of cricket totally incomprehensible!!! They must be getting their market research from the "Big 3" who insist that Americans don't buy hatchbacks, don't like manual transmissions, and are more concerned with surviving accidents than avoiding them. What nonsense! If Toyota doesn't get in touch with the consumer they are going to find themselves left behind by "Civic Nation" again (only this time it will be "FIT" Nation). The only benefit to the U.S. consumer might be getting "employee pricing", like the Big 3 offers, at the end of the model year. Hopefully Toyota will get the message, because the Yaris is a wonderful platform on which to build a super-sub.
BTW the last car I owned without a tach was a 1966 Plymouth Valiant!!!!!
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Old 04-18-2006, 07:26 PM   #15
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.....They must be getting their market research from the "Big 3" who insist that Americans don't buy hatchbacks, don't like manual transmissions, and are more concerned with surviving accidents than avoiding them. What nonsense! If Toyota doesn't get in touch with the consumer they are going to find themselves left behind by "Civic Nation" again (only this time it will be "FIT" Nation)......
WOW, Greatly put. Toyota needs to stick to its Japanese roots and not follow the American Crap cars, Thats right i said it. The Big 3 put out such crap and i dont want a great manufacturer like Toyota to follow in their footsteps. Remember, Toyota started the Total Quality Control and Kaizen (Continuous Improvment) in Japan around the early 1950's, they need to strengthen those ideas once again and get out ahead of the Big 3. And believe me, Toyota has the ability to do so, they just can't slip up anymore whit their sales strategy. I would love to see less SUV's, and more smaller cars, and im sure it will happen soon enough with the gas prices so high. And you watch the Big 3 will start producing lots of small cars rather then big boats that they sell now. Just look at Europe, so many small cars.

Ok im done rambling on.
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Old 04-18-2006, 07:30 PM   #16
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good ramble leenis24
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Old 04-18-2006, 08:01 PM   #17
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OMFG, i just called Berlin city toyota in Gorham, NH and they had a Bayou Blue 5 speed 3door. And guess what, its sold already, they had it a freakin day and its sold. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. And Berlin city of Portland, ME has a blazing blue 5 speed, but i dont know if its still there, portlands a little to far away from me. Maybe i can get a closer toyota dealer to get it from them some how, hmmmmmm. There starting to come around up here in New england now, of course the farthest point away from california, where they ship in. I'll have mine soon enough, muuhahahahhah.
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Old 04-18-2006, 09:24 PM   #18
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If the car you want is at another dealer, just tell yours to get it for you. That's what mine did.
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