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Old 01-30-2009, 02:31 AM   #1
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all USDM vehicles will have some form of vehicle stability by I think 2010...or 2012...another govt mandated 'accessory' just like TPMS, ABS and seatbelts.....
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Old 01-30-2009, 12:32 PM   #2
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why even comment on this...? i will repeat myself, IF YOU NEED ECP/VSC , you better stay off the road. How did you manage to drive without it when they weren't invented yet? you suddenly forgot how to handle a car? articles/people like this drive me nuts.
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Old 01-30-2009, 01:24 PM   #3
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....followed by a comment usually no?
im just having trouble understanding the logic of people claiming that VSC should be standard, how did they drive before VSC?
People just want less and less stuff to do/learn in their cars so they can text/talk to people on their cell phones while they're driving. Soon it'll be like Minority Report and we'll all just have the exact same transport units attached to our homes that automatically drive us to where we're going. Oh well, at least there won't be any more traffic collisions...
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Old 01-30-2009, 01:40 PM   #4
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It would be a nice feature to have the ability to turn off IMO. It still doesn't make me run out and by a Phit. My Tuscon came with it standard, but I really do not want it. I believe the Phit has it as a standard option
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Old 01-30-2009, 02:31 PM   #5
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It would be a nice feature to have the ability to turn off IMO. It still doesn't make me run out and by a Phit. My Tuscon came with it standard, but I really do not want it. I believe the Phit has it as a standard option

The VSC in my Phit can be turned off by pressing a button. So far, I haven't seen the need to do that. The Phit--with the VSC--feels very secure on the road.
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Old 01-30-2009, 02:28 PM   #6
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im just having trouble understanding the logic of people claiming that VSC should be standard, how did they drive before VSC?
I think this argument is so dumb. Of course people drove before VSC...less safely. People drove before air bags, seat belts, padded dash boards, and safety glass. Kids didn't need to be secured in car seats either. Does that mean we should remove these features from cars? VSC helps cars handle better, allowing the driver less chance of an accident in certain situations...what's so wrong with that??

As safety features evolve, should we ignore them & keep them out of cars because we didn't have them previously?? That just seems so illogical to me.
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Old 01-30-2009, 02:50 PM   #7
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I think this argument is so dumb. Of course people drove before VSC...less safely. People drove before air bags, seat belts, padded dash boards, and safety glass. Kids didn't need to be secured in car seats either. Does that mean we should remove these features from cars? VSC helps cars handle better, allowing the driver less chance of an accident in certain situations...what's so wrong with that??

As safety features evolve, should we ignore them & keep them out of cars because we didn't have them previously?? That just seems so illogical to me.
I had the VSC on my 4runner and it really didn't do anything to make it safer to drive. The unit had problems and you has to reset the system by disconnecting the battery.

My wife's Rav-4 has it and on slick surfaces, it just stalls. Try driving up a driveway that is snow covered. It won't!

If I had a choice, I would not have it.
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Old 01-30-2009, 02:46 PM   #8
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I like Consumers Reports, but I have noticed over the years that they have a bias towards Japanese cars over American cars. One great example is the Toyota Corolla and Chevy/Geo Prism. The cars are almost the same, except for the grill and back end....same engine and drive train. CR always rates the Corolla higher than the Prism.
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Old 01-30-2009, 02:49 PM   #9
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Consumer's Reports are nice, but I'd rather buy a car because I like it, not because someone else does.
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Old 01-30-2009, 02:58 PM   #10
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And what exactly is a Phit?

Isn't it Honda Fit? Or are we talking something different here?
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Old 01-30-2009, 03:05 PM   #11
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Googled it...

"At Phit, clients choose from individually tailored vaginal rejuvenation, Kegel phitness and post-partum rehabilitation regimens..."

I'm guessing that's not what we're talking about?
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Old 01-30-2009, 03:07 PM   #12
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Old 01-30-2009, 04:15 PM   #13
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Oh Bobby... You are stirring up the waters again. hehe

I love the '09 Fit Sport too, but let this die on Yarisworld.

BTW - I'm getting shitty MPGs in both cars in the winter.
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Old 01-30-2009, 04:18 PM   #14
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BTW - I'm getting shitty MPGs in both cars in the winter.
Amen to that for my Yaris.. yuck.
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I'm confused how old does a Phit have to be to receive the " individually tailored vaginal rejuvenation"

Before and After the treatment.
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Just ask the doctors at Phit. It's in New York.
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