Manual Transmission...Safety Issue!!!

[Kitt]

Bottom line is: Im not having the issue, Im happy with my car and there is no reason for me to return it...

[serious]

Originally Posted by Kitt

Bottom line is: Im not having the issue, Im happy with my car and there is no reason for me to return it...

+1

[TrancosRt]

I think that posting things like this in an enthusiasts forum is not the best thing to do, isn't it? I mean, saying that the car we love is not safe, specially when most of the problem seems to be the driver not being able to adapt to the car...

[Kitt]

agree with that, in fact, you've washed my brain... that's it, i'm returning my car lol...

[SmellyTofu]

Originally Posted by Kitt

agree with that, in fact, you've washed my brain... that's it, i'm returning my car lol...

I'll go one further.. I'll tell the guy who created the car that his car is McFcuked because it's a major safety issue with a manual gearbox.

Anyone read the fable "The boy who cried wolf"?

[Don Mason]

I love my Yaris Hatch, but the clutch did indeed take a little getting used to.

The Yaris has a very light flywheel, and the engine is so quiet that it can be easy to stall the engine when the car is new. Here's what works for me.

I simply give the throttle pedal a quick small tap before I begin to release the clutch from a dead stop. The throttle by wire tends to hold RPM briefly, so take off from a dead stop becomes much easier, like driving a manual with a larger engine and heavier flywheel.

I've found also that the clutch action improves a great deal as the car breaks in, probably because the pressure plate and flywheel surfaces take on a smooth polish as time goes by.

[Reddington]

I've known many people who "can drive a manual" only to stall left and right and claim its the car's fault.

[rocketxr7]

Originally Posted by Reddington

I've known many people who "can drive a manual" only to stall left and right and claim its the car's fault.

I personally did not state it was the cars fault .Just that it is taking some getting use to this clutch and for now I seem to be stalling it way more than normal.

I have been driving standard shift cars for over 25 yrs This one seems a bit touchy to me. Currently I own 8 cars 5 of which are standard shift.the 5 are
'78 K-10 Blazer
'84 Nissan Sentra Wagon
'88 Mazada 626
'01 Echo
'07 Yaris HB

I will state again the Yaris is taking a bit for me to get use to.

Btw other 3 cars are
1980 Mercury Cougar
'90 Plymoth Sundance
2000 Dodge Caravan

[featherz]

I don't think it's the cars fault - I went from a Jeep Wrangler to the Yaris and had a tough time for a while until I got used to it (stalls, etc) - my husband jumped in my car and has never had a problem at all (He has a manual subaru which is also very different from my Jeep). He thinks it drives fine. I am sure some cars may have problems but in my case I am almost positive it's the driver. :P

[ChinoCharles]

Are people really coming on a car forum and blaming the fact that they stall all the time on the clutch? Its TOYOTA people, they've been working on the Yaris for years. It isn't going to roll off the line in its second iteration with a faulty tranny. You people just can't handle the fact that there is no tach and the car is light and likes to roll.

[rocketxr7]

Originally Posted by ChinoCharles

Are people really coming on a car forum and blaming the fact that they stall all the time on the clutch? Its TOYOTA people, they've been working on the Yaris for years. It isn't going to roll off the line in its second iteration with a faulty tranny. You people just can't handle the fact that there is no tach and the car is light and likes to roll.

Well there is no Tach in my Echo,Nissan or Blazer either . Besides Yaris is not much differant from my Echo

[nsmitchell]

I know, I know, I drive an AUTO, but, I think the stalling problem is due to trying to get the maximum mileage out of the Yaris. If you are feather light on the gas, guess what... stall. Put your foot on that bad boy when starting out and problem solved. It's all in the wrist.... er... ankles. Rev that engine...Burn a little gas. It might cost you an extra $0.30 at the pump, but well worth it.

[Darla]

No probs w/ my clutch. I had to search high and low to find my Yaris w/ manual transmission.

If you're worried about rolling back on steep inclines, use the emergency break and ride first gear.

Don't give up on the MT--You ain't drivin' unless you're drivin' a stick!

[hackjob]

They are right about the friction being non-existent though.

[Basscat]

I'll agree the electronic throttle and touchy clutch took a bit of getting used to, coming from a well broken in "old fashioned" manual in my case, but to call it a safety hazard, unless the OP has a defective Yaris, was a bit much. Part of the problem for me is the engine is so quiet, if there is a noisy vehicle nearby, I can't tell where the engine rpm's are when starting without looking at the tach, which I am still not used to. Blip the throttle and start the clutch, then slowly and steadily throttle up works for me. And I love my Yaris S

[twocvforme]

Originally Posted by Basscat

I'll agree the electronic throttle and touchy clutch took a bit of getting used to, coming from a well broken in "old fashioned" manual in my case, but to call it a safety hazard, unless the OP has a defective Yaris, was a bit much. Part of the problem for me is the engine is so quiet, if there is a noisy vehicle nearby, I can't tell where the engine rpm's are when starting without looking at the tach, which I am still not used to. Blip the throttle and start the clutch, then slowly and steadily throttle up works for me. And I love my Yaris S

The safety issue to us is real simple....my wife has stalled the Yaris in two busy intersections and nearly got creamed in the side...she will not touch the car any longer...she has driven standards for 15 yrs. and loves them. No problem in any gear but first.. We do use your technique,she also turns the radio off and tells people to stop talking...for proper take off. Life is just to short for all this nonsense..

[SmellyTofu]

Originally Posted by twocvforme

The safety issue to us is real simple....my wife has stalled the Yaris in two busy intersections and nearly got creamed in the side...she will not touch the car any longer...she has driven standards for 15 yrs. and loves them. No problem in any gear but first.. We do use your technique,she also turns the radio off and tells people to stop talking...for proper take off. Life is just to short for all this nonsense..

I'm sorry your wife almost got into an accident but still in no way was the car at fault. Someone chose to pull out into a busy intersection. This you can control. It has to do with the driver technique. Keep driving it, get a feel for it, or.. you can sell it and get something where you can drive a car using your technique.

If however you said you were travelling at a speed and the engine stalled, then I would agree it is a safety issue. This will be something that you could not have controlled.

[twocvforme]

Originally Posted by SmellyTofu

I'm sorry your wife almost got into an accident but still in no way was the car at fault. Someone chose to pull out into a busy intersection. This you can control. It has to do with the driver technique. Keep driving it, get a feel for it, or.. you can sell it and get something where you can drive a car using your technique.

If however you said you were travelling at a speed and the engine stalled, then I would agree it is a safety issue. This will be something that you could not have controlled.

That's correct...she is not driving it any longer.. we're just fortunate to have other stardard vehicles here to drive.. She pities the poor soul who has just one manual Yaris to drive...
Since it appears by the many posts here, it's not the normal.. Plus, we take driving very seriously; cannot afford one possible stall - due to low RPM's etc...
Toyota will have a Technical Bulletin (Recall) soon that many of us will gladly welcome; especially after they have a few liability suits.