I predict gas will be $3(nyc) by summer, national avg $2.80

[slothman86]

2.47 in Savannah.

[Bob Dog]

The damn fossil fuels should have stayed in the ground....

[Forrest]

87 oct. was 2.70 today (Southeastern NY)and for those cars that need the higher oct. it was 3.03 per gallon.
So...three dollars is here in some area.

[Bob Dog]

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Specious reasoning : If you can not see that the syncroncity of melting of ice caps hundreds of thousands of years old with happening at the same time as an the initiation of an environmental event only about 100 years old as interrelated then your perceptual abilties are quite dim, or you are indulging in self justifing rationalization. That same old greenland /iceland horsehit.

[Bob Dog]

There are regular flucuations, but the rate of melting of the icecaps is unprecedented and syncronous with the introduction of fossil fuel pollutants. The probability of these two events being in such a narrow window of temporal proximity and bring unrelated approaches the infinitismal.

[msfire671]

Well...Guam's gaas has just gone up.....from 2.84...now....$3.14 yup we are now at the 3 dollar mark!

[NJBob]

ive seen no studies to support man induced global warming that most of the leading geological experts in the world would agree with.

Agreed, it has not been scientifically proven that man is responsible for global warming.

[aeipee13]

2.89 in los angeles today. premium was 3.11. Maybe if we start bombing everyone, prices will go down. Obama being nice seems to have caused this price increase.

[JBougie]

Originally Posted by aeipee13

2.89 in los angeles today. premium was 3.11. Maybe if we start bombing everyone, prices will go down. Obama being nice seems to have caused this price increase.

$2.64 for 87 here in Minneapolis.
Last time I filled up it was $2.32

Lame.

[Bob Dog]

Have you been getting your medicine from Rush Limbaugh's doctor aeipee 13?

[aeipee13]

Originally Posted by Bob Dog

Have you been getting your medicine from Rush Limbaugh's doctor aeipee 13?

it was a joke.

[JBougie]

Yes, let's all sip from the Pelosi cup and start ripping on people who don't agree fully with the left side.

It allllllways has to come to that, doesn't it?

[GeneW]

To stick to the point - prices this summer will depend upon political factors. Carbon taxes, Israeli intrigue and whether or not joblessness will continue to increase. We see joblessness go over twelve to fifteen percent and there will not be a lot of increase in prices over about $3.00.

Gene

[Bob Dog]

The left, the right , how mid 20th century. Human caused planetary change is documented and the primary reason people chose to deny it is not factually based but due to the discomfort it causes to acknowledge it. Better to rationalize it to away and live in the self congratulatory mode we existed in for the past 100 years, Truth is we are the monkey that pisses poison. Realize that and get on with your life. Neither of the political parties offers deliverance . We have traded our empire for an excess of comsumer goods and a lack of investment: and what investment Americans have made have been stolen away by the manipulaters of our economic systenm for their own self indulgence. Democracts support an often parasitic lower class and Republicans are toads to wealthy investor class of that wants it all and would rather have us all live as virtual slaves The pollution will continue as long mass and energy create power, physical or manifestly political.

[roxy1]

[QUOTE=Bob Dog;331751]The left, the right , how mid 20th century. Human caused planetary change is documented QUOTE]

the only thing documented is the climate change itself. the changes we've seen in cimate have in fact happened before in similar degrees of severity if you look back far enough in time. this was long before the industrial revolution, but it still happened. many respected geological scientists throughout the world have reached the conlusion that there is currently no cause and effect that has been proven this time around.

the sad thing is we never should have needed al gore and the like spreading misinformation to motivate the countries of the world to clean up our planet. there are enough other reasons to clean things up. somer people will be shocked, however, that global warming will continue no matter how clean we get. then, it will cycle down. this is the history of the planet.

[daf62757]

[QUOTE=roxy1;331904]

Originally Posted by Bob Dog

The left, the right , how mid 20th century. Human caused planetary change is documented QUOTE]

the only thing documented is the climate change itself. the changes we've seen in cimate have in fact happened before in similar degrees of severity if you look back far enough in time. this was long before the industrial revolution, but it still happened. many respected geological scientists throughout the world have reached the conlusion that there is currently no cause and effect that has been proven this time around.

the sad thing is we never should have needed al gore and the like spreading misinformation to motivate the countries of the world to clean up our planet. there are enough other reasons to clean things up. somer people will be shocked, however, that global warming will continue no matter how clean we get. then, it will cycle down. this is the history of the planet.

Good...no excellent post!

[daf62757]

Originally Posted by Bob Dog

The left, the right , how mid 20th century. Human caused planetary change is documented and the primary reason people chose to deny it is not factually based but due to the discomfort it causes to acknowledge it. Better to rationalize it to away and live in the self congratulatory mode we existed in for the past 100 years, Truth is we are the monkey that pisses poison. Realize that and get on with your life. Neither of the political parties offers deliverance . We have traded our empire for an excess of comsumer goods and a lack of investment: and what investment Americans have made have been stolen away by the manipulaters of our economic systenm for their own self indulgence. Democracts support an often parasitic lower class and Republicans are toads to wealthy investor class of that wants it all and would rather have us all live as virtual slaves The pollution will continue as long mass and energy create power, physical or manifestly political.

I think there is a difference between pollution and climate change. One is caused by man, the other is a natural physical occurrence that has happened for billions of years.

[GeneW]

Originally Posted by Bob Dog

The left, the right , how mid 20th century. Human caused planetary change is documented and the primary reason people chose to deny it is not factually based but due to the discomfort it causes to acknowledge it.

Non-sense.

Originally Posted by Bob Dog

Truth is we are the monkey that pisses poison. Realize that and get on with your life.

Misanthropic non-sense.

Originally Posted by Bob Dog

The pollution will continue as long mass and energy create power, physical or manifestly political.

Third law of thermodynamics supports a paraphrase of this view, if you consider waste products to be "pollution". Sometimes they are and sometimes they aren't.

The jury is still out on people causing some or most of the climate change recently seen. Some damn good science is being done that disputes some or all of this dogma that Al Gore and others peddle for a living.

Science isn't about anecdotes of drowning polar bears, loss of ice caps or other phenomena, it's about establishing causes and relationships.

Either the models work or they don't. Skepticism isn't denial, it's being scientific.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ykgg9m-7FK4


I'll be glad to agree that we're running out of fossil fuels and need to fix this problem. I reject this idea that Americans and Europeans must sacrifice manufacturing jobs, their industries and ultimately must live like peasants so that some people can feel good about themselves.

Gene