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SailDesign · 06-01-2009, 10:05 PM

I'l just be interested to see if a company that is in reality owned by you and I can actually design and build cars that you and I want. interesting....

tuckevalastin · 06-01-2009, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SailDesign

I'l just be interested to see if a company that is in reality owned by you and I can actually design and build cars that you and I want. interesting....

The problem is You and I want completely different cars but whose to say whether your wants are more important than mine if we both own an equal share.

GeneW · 06-01-2009, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SailDesign

I'l just be interested to see if a company that is in reality owned by you and I can actually design and build cars that you and I want. interesting....

Don't want to be difficult,l but "you" and "I" don't own a thing. The US Government owns it and a bunch of Activists and Technocrats will run it. If you have doubts wait for the shareholders meeting..... but don't wait too long.

I for one want to see the subsidies needed to make a little car in the US. If Toyota and Honda couldn't do it at a profit how will GM do it? Why should I spend on my own car and someone else's too?

Gene

Shroomster · 06-02-2009, 12:30 PM

I'm upset at the workers (union or not) who get paid astronomical salaries or hourly rates to install a few plastic trim pieces on a car then get mad when they can't afford their 300k home anymore.

or the ones who haven't worked in 5, 10, 20 years, just living off GM pensions

feel sorry for them? hell no I don't.
they are the ones 'building it' they get paid once to make it...I get paid to fix it, time and time again, because their engineers can't make it properly, and I am barely scraping by.

Sabretooth · 06-02-2009, 01:53 PM

Rumor mill is circulating that either Saab is gonna be purchased by either Fiat, or staying in Sweden by way of Koenigsegg... Which means we could see a really good Saab sports car is Koenigsegg buys em out.

Deltasix · 06-02-2009, 01:54 PM

The auto workers get paid a reasonable salary, its the rest of us that don't. The unions were what allowed the average American to buy their own car, their own house, and to be able to retire. Without them, people putting together cars might be making more like a dollar an hour, with no benefits, and no hope for retirement. Rather than be angry at union workers, I'd be happy of what they were able to accomplish, and, despite the fear of falling into some evil commie-pinko state, would see how to emulate that in other industries.

supmet · 06-02-2009, 02:35 PM

Sorry guys. I've said it before and I'll say it again. When I was 16 or 17, I called the housing collapse, and the collapse of hummer, followed shortly by GM. If you couldn't see it, you were greedy or retarded. I'm really, really tired of "feeling sorry" for a bunch of people that ruined a perfectly good country with their own ignorance. Everyone after vietnam has had the world handed to them on a silver platter and now they are learning how much work it actually takes to survive.

This is just the first of many millions of lay offs. You think its bad now? A computer could already make you your big mac(and actually get your order right more than 60% of the time), McDonald's is just waiting for the right time to replace everyone. People aren't quite ready to accept a world run completely by robots. I already have computers checking me out at the albertsons down the street(and to think the checkers and baggers had the nerve to strike a few years back). 90% of packaging, shipping, manufacturing, and assembly jobs will be gone in the next decade or two.

staticorex · 06-02-2009, 02:41 PM

Okay Karl Marx. :p

GeneW · 06-02-2009, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by supmet

This is just the first of many millions of lay offs. You think its bad now? A computer could already make you your big mac(and actually get your order right more than 60% of the time), McDonald's is just waiting for the right time to replace everyone. People aren't quite ready to accept a world run completely by robots. I already have computers checking me out at the albertsons down the street(and to think the checkers and baggers had the nerve to strike a few years back). 90% of packaging, shipping, manufacturing, and assembly jobs will be gone in the next decade or two.

I dunno.... not being a pain or anything but automating a task is still NOT quite that easy. I started in a product line with PLC - programmable logic controllers - and they're not that incredible.

McDonald's already has a lot of "automatic" cookers, especially in the grill area. Still cheaper to have people put the burgers together, for now any how.

Someday, sure.... I automated two thirds of my first job out of college, replacing data entry with a file transfer utility. Pretty easy there, but making a robot do something that requires fine motor control - and doing it cheaply enough to replace a minimum wage worker - that's not so easy.

Gene

Sabretooth · 06-02-2009, 02:53 PM

Nostradamus lives, and he posts on Yarisworld!!!!

MadMax · 06-02-2009, 03:39 PM

Hummer's not dead, it's now Chinese! I wonder if Ahhhhnold is going to keep his now that the company is owned by Commies (Sichuan Tengzhong Heavy Industrial Machinery Company)!

anonymous user · 06-02-2009, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by staticorex

I was hoping they could save it. Now I'm sad. :( Anyone else sad about this? Or do the Toyota fans not care? :p

From CNN...
GM will shed its Pontiac, Saturn, Hummer and Saab brands and cut loose more than 2,000 of its 6,000 U.S. dealerships by next year. That could result in more than 100,000 additional job losses if those dealerships are forced to close.

Everything you read on CNN, please don't take it as spoken truth. Saturn and Saab are not going BK.

staticorex · 06-03-2009, 11:47 AM

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Everything you read on CNN, please don't take it as spoken truth. Saturn and Saab are not going BK.

I wasn't taking it as proof, just listing it as a reference. I saw it on Yahoo before checking my mail and looked up the first news site that came to mind to confirm it. I was just showing I didn't make it up. :p I'm sure some of the 4 will be picked up and survive, but as of the first day I posted this the media was saying it was so. :p

TLyttle · 06-03-2009, 12:39 AM

"Turn the pod, HAL..."

GeneW · 06-03-2009, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TLyttle

"Turn the pod, HAL..."

Some day maybe... but not today.

One of Kubrick's better movies.

Gene

06-02-2009, 01:53 PM	#5
Sabretooth 37HSSV View User's Garage Drives: '11 Mazdaspeed 3 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: St Cloud FL Posts: 1,395	Rumor mill is circulating that either Saab is gonna be purchased by either Fiat, or staying in Sweden by way of Koenigsegg... Which means we could see a really good Saab sports car is Koenigsegg buys em out. __________________ 07 Toyota Yaris Hatchback -sold- 11 Mazdaspeed 3 -SRI/TIP, 3 inch TBI, Custom FMIC, Tuned by Cobb Accessport, HKS ssq2 BOV, Upgraded HPFP- Clean stock look... Killer performance.

06-02-2009, 01:54 PM	#6
Deltasix Drives: '07 Liftback: Work in Progress Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: CT Posts: 187	The auto workers get paid a reasonable salary, its the rest of us that don't. The unions were what allowed the average American to buy their own car, their own house, and to be able to retire. Without them, people putting together cars might be making more like a dollar an hour, with no benefits, and no hope for retirement. Rather than be angry at union workers, I'd be happy of what they were able to accomplish, and, despite the fear of falling into some evil commie-pinko state, would see how to emulate that in other industries. __________________ "The basis of optimism is sheer terror."

06-02-2009, 02:41 PM	#8
staticorex View User's Garage Drives: Sc'd Yaris Sedan. Join Date: May 2007 Location: civilwar town. Posts: 660	Okay Karl Marx. :p __________________ Tantum religio potuit suadere malorum.

06-02-2009, 02:53 PM	#10
Sabretooth 37HSSV View User's Garage Drives: '11 Mazdaspeed 3 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: St Cloud FL Posts: 1,395	Nostradamus lives, and he posts on Yarisworld!!!! __________________ 07 Toyota Yaris Hatchback -sold- 11 Mazdaspeed 3 -SRI/TIP, 3 inch TBI, Custom FMIC, Tuned by Cobb Accessport, HKS ssq2 BOV, Upgraded HPFP- Clean stock look... Killer performance.

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06-01-2009, 10:05 PM	#1
SailDesign Drives: . Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: . Posts: 1,931	I'l just be interested to see if a company that is in reality owned by you and I can actually design and build cars that you and I want. interesting....

06-02-2009, 12:30 PM	#4
Shroomster '07 to '12:2 wipers to 1? View User's Garage Drives: '12 5-door LE & '14 5-door LE Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Orlando Posts: 1,999	I'm upset at the workers (union or not) who get paid astronomical salaries or hourly rates to install a few plastic trim pieces on a car then get mad when they can't afford their 300k home anymore. or the ones who haven't worked in 5, 10, 20 years, just living off GM pensions feel sorry for them? hell no I don't. they are the ones 'building it' they get paid once to make it...I get paid to fix it, time and time again, because their engineers can't make it properly, and I am barely scraping by.

06-02-2009, 02:35 PM	#7
supmet Banned View User's Garage Drives: 2007 4 Door Yaris Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Southern California Posts: 1,357	Sorry guys. I've said it before and I'll say it again. When I was 16 or 17, I called the housing collapse, and the collapse of hummer, followed shortly by GM. If you couldn't see it, you were greedy or retarded. I'm really, really tired of "feeling sorry" for a bunch of people that ruined a perfectly good country with their own ignorance. Everyone after vietnam has had the world handed to them on a silver platter and now they are learning how much work it actually takes to survive. This is just the first of many millions of lay offs. You think its bad now? A computer could already make you your big mac(and actually get your order right more than 60% of the time), McDonald's is just waiting for the right time to replace everyone. People aren't quite ready to accept a world run completely by robots. I already have computers checking me out at the albertsons down the street(and to think the checkers and baggers had the nerve to strike a few years back). 90% of packaging, shipping, manufacturing, and assembly jobs will be gone in the next decade or two.

06-02-2009, 03:39 PM	#11
MadMax Drives: 2008 Yaris Liftback (Sprocket) Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: San Antonio, Texas! Posts: 2,799	Hummer's not dead, it's now Chinese! I wonder if Ahhhhnold is going to keep his now that the company is owned by Commies (Sichuan Tengzhong Heavy Industrial Machinery Company)!

06-03-2009, 12:39 AM	#14
TLyttle Drives: 07 Yaris sedan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Keremeos BC Posts: 986	"Turn the pod, HAL..."