Clutch shudder when setting off in 1st gear

[yaris2010RS]

Originally Posted by DerFlosser

I definitely find this to be evident! I usually just shift into second and give gas but the car really doesn't want to go into 1st gear unless stopped.

i find it makes right turns very awkward and red lights that magically turn green a nightmare.... almost feels like its gonna stall. and today i decided to try and ride the clutch a bit.....this will not fix anything, make alot of noise then bounce. lol. guess we gonna have to live with it or change the gears.....

[BuildCode]

Originally Posted by yaris2010RS

i find it makes right turns very awkward and red lights that magically turn green a nightmare.... almost feels like its gonna stall. and today i decided to try and ride the clutch a bit.....this will not fix anything, make alot of noise then bounce. lol. guess we gonna have to live with it or change the gears.....

I sometimes double clutch to get into 1st gear easier... i.e. clutch out, raise RPMs 500-1000 higher than idle, clutch in and shift into 1st gear at a slow rolling speed. This is all at below 5mph speeds of course.

[dennischan0919]

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[yaris2010RS]

so u release clutch then rev a bit to get it aprox 2000RPM and then depress clutch and 1st? tomorrow on my way to school will definatly give it a shot.... lol

[yaris2010RS]

something i noticed on my way home today tring to glide down a hill, possibally completly off topic but still has to do with clutch. i was driving down the road at crusing speed 100 KM/H and around 2,500RPM, so i depressed the clutch shifted to neutrel (no gear) and let go of clutch. i watched my RPMs drop to 1,000 then 500(my normal idle) then jump up to 1,500 and kept bouncing from 500 - 1,500. this only happens if i'm off the clutch and in no gear, if i'm holding clutch it wont bounce around. i took a video so if u dont exactly follow what i'm saying follow link

i'm sorry, its very bad quality and uber long, lol, i started messing around after a while, lol. and since my right hand (shifter hand) was holding phone made for a very bad experience. lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEb1NY1xSXU

[BuildCode]

Originally Posted by yaris2010RS

so u release clutch then rev a bit to get it aprox 2000RPM and then depress clutch and 1st? tomorrow on my way to school will definatly give it a shot.... lol

Less than that: 1,000 or 1,500 rpm. You'll know it's right when you can shift into first with zero resistance :)

Originally Posted by yaris2010RS

something i noticed on my way home today tring to glide down a hill, possibally completly off topic but still has to do with clutch. i was driving down the road at crusing speed 100 KM/H and around 2,500RPM, so i depressed the clutch shifted to neutrel (no gear) and let go of clutch. i watched my RPMs drop to 1,000 then 500(my normal idle) then jump up to 1,500 and kept bouncing from 500 - 1,500.

I don't put mine in neutral at that high of a speed, but from 40mph (60kmh) my revs will bob once or twice, but not as many times as yours did in the video. I don't worry about it, at all.

[yaris2010RS]

Originally Posted by BuildCode

i don't put mine in neutral at that high of a speed, but from 40mph (60kmh) my revs will bob once or twice, but not as many times as yours did in the video. I don't worry about it, at all.

lol, wasn't really too worried about it and probably not gonna do it too often either. lol. just one day on the highway going down hill and decided to try it.
jsut wondering if it has to do with the constant revving at idle which i do find very annoying.

my friend sudgested it has to do with cold wind coming in and the engine trying to keep going or resistance the tranny is putting it in even in no gear.

[PHXDEMON]

This isn't a defect or an issue. It is "shuddering" because the first and revers gears don't have syncros. The yaris motor has almost no will to live so in first gear you have to get the RPM's up a little and feather the clutch properly. Problem solved.

[yaris2010RS]

and i gotta take blueberry in soon too...... after the recent toyota recalls i find my clutch can do the same..... happened to me a few times...... not too much of an issue but still

[tk-421]

I'm starting to have shudder issues myself... The weird part is that I have already swapped my clutch once (ACT Stage 1)... Starting to wonder if the tranny fluid is leaking...

Another weird thing is that sometimes I will get a bit of grinding when I downshift from 3rd to 2nd gear (while engine-braking), even if my clutch is completely engaged (foot all the way down).

[yaris2010RS]

I am personally beginning to question the hydraulic fluid....

[eventnis]

it probably the "#$#% drive by wire system.thats the only thing that pisses me off with this car.

[woof]

This shudder (chatter) seems to be a design flaw just like the "Big Foot Mod" and the imprecise throttle tip-in that causes rough shifts and stalling.

I drove a 5-speed xB for 50K miles before trading for my Yaris and it has been a nightmare with the Yaris. The xB was nearly flawless at 50K and I never had clutch chatter or shifting problems.

And yes, first gear has a synchro on it. It just doesn't work worth a damn.

[09SedanPolarWhiteMT]

Happens to me, my car just rolled over 10K miles. I've noticed it since like 4,000 miles, I drive like you, I try to start with as low RPMs as possible. I thought I was skidding the tires at first but it's happened on flat, dry, gravel-free surfaces. I do not feel any erratic resistance in the clutch, just the lurching of the car. Wonder what's causing it.

[Yaris_Mac]

Sorry for bringing this thread back to life but is there a fix for this? I've been driving manual tranny since 1992 and this is the worse 1st and reverse gear. My 1976 corolla had better 1st/reverse than this Yaris. Please advise. Thanks!

[tmontague]

A permanent fix would be getting a better aftermarket clutch.

Other than that bleeding the slave cylinder helps but it only last a few weeks.