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Morgan · 10-14-2009, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilredrocket

I'm not going to run on slicks but your saying that if you want to run slicks in HS get the front sway bar from Garm? Why would you do that?

you can 'legally' run a front sway bar in HS, but you really don't need one in the yaris, it understeers enough as is?

For stock you need some nicely adjustable shocks, r-comps, roll cage (maybe?) and take your spare tire out... there's not a whole lot you can do with the Yaris but the jump to STS is exepensive - GL

lilredrocket · 10-14-2009, 10:58 PM

I wasw going off of what tamago said. If you look at a classing sheet you can change your FSB in HS. Im not going to do this because my car is already classed in ST now but only just got classed there. I have only ran in 2 events this year and they were in SM because my back seat was out.

Tamago · 10-14-2009, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilredrocket

I wasw going off of what tamago said. If you look at a classing sheet you can change your FSB in HS. Im not going to do this because my car is already classed in ST now but only just got classed there. I have only ran in 2 events this year and they were in SM because my back seat was out.

if you're not running R comps don't waste your time with an FSB.

just don't flip your yaris please

lilredrocket · 10-14-2009, 11:04 PM

I was only wondering why you recommend a FSB when running slicks?

Tamago · 10-14-2009, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by lilredrocket

I was only wondering why you recommend a FSB when running slicks?

so you don't flip your stock-height yaris.

lilredrocket · 10-14-2009, 11:12 PM

Ok simple enough.

RHDVIPbB · 10-14-2009, 11:34 PM

How would you flip it? I ran my xB with r-compounds and never once did anyone say it looked like I was about to flip. Our cars are not top heavy like most people think.

mojoyaris · 10-15-2009, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by RHDVIPbB

How would you flip it? I ran my xB with r-compounds and never once did anyone say it looked like I was about to flip. Our cars are not top heavy like most people think.

Ohhhhh trust me. it can happen. I've seen a few flip in Japan.

kngrsll · 10-15-2009, 08:44 AM

i have got to say, i loooooove seeing the racing forum finally hoppin!

that being said, yes, the car is not exactly sporty. i think if you are really serious about autox and you want to be competitive on a national level, you are really starting with a hand tied behind your back. that being said, when i bought my car, autox was not my intention. i bought it bc it was practical as hell, cheap, and could be fun with a few light mods. well, i think i am right on all those fronts! i have really enjoyed the car for the purpose it serves for me. i am not going out to be HPDE national champion, or win regional autox events, but if i can compete locally, cool. if i can have fun at a track day, even better! i have moved 5 times with the car (school, bouncing around from apartment to apartment) and each time, the car was perfect for the job.

so is it going to be a class changing competitior? probably not, but it is still going to be fun and cheap! when i finish school and have a little bit of money, i plan on getting an S2000 and trying my hand at regional/national level autox and then NASA TT's. But i may just look into doing TT's with the yaris as well, i dunno. but i reeeeally want an S2k if i get into serious racing and keep the yaris for daily driving.

RHDVIPbB · 10-15-2009, 08:54 AM

Nasa events are fun. We have local HPDE events that are fun to compete in. Next year I plan to compete in more events especially with our new road course being finished.

ozmdd · 10-15-2009, 09:22 AM

I found the Yaris to be great for TT events, so long as the course really is a TT-style. A good TT course is more open than an autoX course, but less open than a road course/track event. Just be sure to pay attention to your brake temperatures. converting your foglight openings into brake ducts is very useful for this. There is a write-up ont his mod somewhere.
Also, SCCA ST-class allows the addition of brake ducts if you dont' have to modify the body work. It is legal to cur a hole in the fender liner for this purpose.

kngrsll · 10-15-2009, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozmdd

I found the Yaris to be great for TT events, so long as the course really is a TT-style. A good TT course is more open than an autoX course, but less open than a road course/track event. Just be sure to pay attention to your brake temperatures. converting your foglight openings into brake ducts is very useful for this. There is a write-up ont his mod somewhere.
Also, SCCA ST-class allows the addition of brake ducts if you dont' have to modify the body work. It is legal to cur a hole in the fender liner for this purpose.

err, not sure what you mean by a TT. a TT to me, is a Time Trial. These are run on a full road course. It is usually run during an HPDE or a track event.

ozmdd · 10-15-2009, 10:21 PM

Well, you are correct, lots of versions of a time trial. The Texas Time Trials club here in Dallas sets-up TT's like what I described.

anonymous user · 10-16-2009, 07:34 PM

It's refreshing to see that other people (morgan) are taking notice that the Yaris is not the "ultimate" racing machine that many forum members revere it to be.

On that note, after blowing my motor on my SM WRX, i have gone ahead to race the daily driven yaris in ST. You have to put your ego aside if you are a good/decent driver, because this car just was not meant to performance.

Would I like to be competetive in this car? Of course. But not at the expense of spending thousands of dollars to build a car barely better than many stock cars out on track already. If you are modded to the limits of ST class, I'd have to say FSP is a great option. R-comps should drop your times significantly on longer courses, as well as shorter layouts.

I am really glad that so many of you take this car out to events. I have really enjoyed reading this thread, as I felt performance-type threads have been lacking for a while on this site.

Yaris-x · 10-17-2009, 11:45 AM

I race a yaris because its what I could afford at the time(Replaced my 85 Olds Delta 88) But I am really looking foward to buying the FT-86 when the Yaris is paid off that should be the "Ultimate Racing Machine"

anonymous user · 10-17-2009, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yaris-x

I race a yaris because its what I could afford at the time(Replaced my 85 Olds Delta 88) But I am really looking foward to buying the FT-86 when the Yaris is paid off that should be the "Ultimate Racing Machine"

Could'nt agree more. But the wait is like 2 years. If i can wait that long, i may get one.

kngrsll · 10-17-2009, 05:34 PM

well, i autox'd today... took 2nd in ST out of 9 cars. i missed 1st place by 0.2 secs :(

the new set up is fun! its very oversteery...

ozmdd · 10-17-2009, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kngrsll

well, i autox'd today... took 2nd in ST out of 9 cars. i missed 1st place by 0.2 secs :(

the new set up is fun! its very oversteery...

Ha! Ironic... I pulled 2nd out of 15 or 20 "under 2.3L" cars at the S2000 autocross today, missing 1st by .1 sec! I actually had the lead until an STS miata's final run.
I made some setup changes that really made a difference, and the car is rotating in a very controllable manner. With the right front camber, the turn-in has become very good, and the Kumho XS tires are damn sticky.
I'll post the results on another thread.
Maybe we can get a thread going just for autocross/TT results?

10-14-2009, 10:58 PM	#2
lilredrocket Slowy getting there View User's Garage Drives: 08 Liftback Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 1,464	I wasw going off of what tamago said. If you look at a classing sheet you can change your FSB in HS. Im not going to do this because my car is already classed in ST now but only just got classed there. I have only ran in 2 events this year and they were in SM because my back seat was out. __________________

10-14-2009, 11:04 PM	#4
lilredrocket Slowy getting there View User's Garage Drives: 08 Liftback Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 1,464	I was only wondering why you recommend a FSB when running slicks? __________________

10-14-2009, 11:12 PM	#6
lilredrocket Slowy getting there View User's Garage Drives: 08 Liftback Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 1,464	Ok simple enough. __________________

10-14-2009, 11:34 PM	#7
RHDVIPbB Right beside you, wave Drives: 08 PBM Yaris Sedan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 742	How would you flip it? I ran my xB with r-compounds and never once did anyone say it looked like I was about to flip. Our cars are not top heavy like most people think. __________________ 2008 Toyota Yaris Sedan. Pacific Blue Mica. Custom vinyl eyebrows, color matched interior trim pieces, Vios lip spoiler, 17" Maas rims 2010 Scion xB 7.0 Release Series. 1535 of 2000. Murasaki. Stock with TRD springs.

10-15-2009, 08:44 AM	#9
kngrsll Apexing Egg!! Drives: 07 Toyota Yaris white hatch Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Spartanburg, SC Posts: 872	i have got to say, i loooooove seeing the racing forum finally hoppin! that being said, yes, the car is not exactly sporty. i think if you are really serious about autox and you want to be competitive on a national level, you are really starting with a hand tied behind your back. that being said, when i bought my car, autox was not my intention. i bought it bc it was practical as hell, cheap, and could be fun with a few light mods. well, i think i am right on all those fronts! i have really enjoyed the car for the purpose it serves for me. i am not going out to be HPDE national champion, or win regional autox events, but if i can compete locally, cool. if i can have fun at a track day, even better! i have moved 5 times with the car (school, bouncing around from apartment to apartment) and each time, the car was perfect for the job. so is it going to be a class changing competitior? probably not, but it is still going to be fun and cheap! when i finish school and have a little bit of money, i plan on getting an S2000 and trying my hand at regional/national level autox and then NASA TT's. But i may just look into doing TT's with the yaris as well, i dunno. but i reeeeally want an S2k if i get into serious racing and keep the yaris for daily driving. __________________ HighTach Motorsports 2007 Toyota Yaris-ARGH!! Mods: Tokico HTS, 6.6 kg F, 6.1 kg R custom springs, 23 mm RSB, 2-way TRD LSD, 15x7 +25 Team Dynamic wheels, 195/55/15 Dunlop Star Specs, Cobra Suzuka S

10-15-2009, 08:54 AM	#10
RHDVIPbB Right beside you, wave Drives: 08 PBM Yaris Sedan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 742	Nasa events are fun. We have local HPDE events that are fun to compete in. Next year I plan to compete in more events especially with our new road course being finished. __________________ 2008 Toyota Yaris Sedan. Pacific Blue Mica. Custom vinyl eyebrows, color matched interior trim pieces, Vios lip spoiler, 17" Maas rims 2010 Scion xB 7.0 Release Series. 1535 of 2000. Murasaki. Stock with TRD springs.

10-15-2009, 09:22 AM	#11
ozmdd Reluctantly Crouched... Drives: 2008 Yaris HB M/T Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 867	I found the Yaris to be great for TT events, so long as the course really is a TT-style. A good TT course is more open than an autoX course, but less open than a road course/track event. Just be sure to pay attention to your brake temperatures. converting your foglight openings into brake ducts is very useful for this. There is a write-up ont his mod somewhere. Also, SCCA ST-class allows the addition of brake ducts if you dont' have to modify the body work. It is legal to cur a hole in the fender liner for this purpose.

10-15-2009, 10:21 PM	#13
ozmdd Reluctantly Crouched... Drives: 2008 Yaris HB M/T Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 867	Well, you are correct, lots of versions of a time trial. The Texas Time Trials club here in Dallas sets-up TT's like what I described.

10-16-2009, 07:34 PM	#14
anonymous user rarer than JDM -1 of 1! View User's Garage Drives: 07yaris Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: windward oahu Posts: 402	It's refreshing to see that other people (morgan) are taking notice that the Yaris is not the "ultimate" racing machine that many forum members revere it to be. On that note, after blowing my motor on my SM WRX, i have gone ahead to race the daily driven yaris in ST. You have to put your ego aside if you are a good/decent driver, because this car just was not meant to performance. Would I like to be competetive in this car? Of course. But not at the expense of spending thousands of dollars to build a car barely better than many stock cars out on track already. If you are modded to the limits of ST class, I'd have to say FSP is a great option. R-comps should drop your times significantly on longer courses, as well as shorter layouts. I am really glad that so many of you take this car out to events. I have really enjoyed reading this thread, as I felt performance-type threads have been lacking for a while on this site. __________________ It's not what you drive, or how much $$ you throw at the car. Mod the ballast on the front left first!

10-17-2009, 11:45 AM	#15
Yaris-x Drives: 2008 Yaris HB Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Syracuse Posts: 101	I race a yaris because its what I could afford at the time(Replaced my 85 Olds Delta 88) But I am really looking foward to buying the FT-86 when the Yaris is paid off that should be the "Ultimate Racing Machine"

10-17-2009, 05:34 PM	#17
kngrsll Apexing Egg!! Drives: 07 Toyota Yaris white hatch Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Spartanburg, SC Posts: 872	well, i autox'd today... took 2nd in ST out of 9 cars. i missed 1st place by 0.2 secs :( the new set up is fun! its very oversteery... __________________ HighTach Motorsports 2007 Toyota Yaris-ARGH!! Mods: Tokico HTS, 6.6 kg F, 6.1 kg R custom springs, 23 mm RSB, 2-way TRD LSD, 15x7 +25 Team Dynamic wheels, 195/55/15 Dunlop Star Specs, Cobra Suzuka S

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