Engine mods - why bother?

[weaponrcamry]

More boost-more power 1zz
Less boost less power-2zz.

Im not trying to diss the 2zz or nothing but, they arent good for turboing in my opinion. There are better of as all motors.
Also looking on the toysport site the 2zz had alot of problems. "Bent valves from miss shifts", so you dont want to do that, but of course everyone miss shifts in a while.
But the 1zz, would be a better component for turboing especially when you are talking about a less reving engine and aren't worried about detination, and at the same time you still have the reliability of an average car. I havent seen many turboed 2zz's around. But more 1zz turbo cars. It would be good to run a 2zz with low boost, but better when you have more boost with the 1zz. :)

Read and learn :O
http://www.toysport.com/Technical%20...tech_notes.htm

[soros151]

So we agree that an All Motor 2ZZ Yaris package will own the strip doing mid 13's. :P

[RoninMax]

I dont know about the The 2zz since my friend is trying to put on to his 2000Echo. (the original swap is made in Hong Kong to fight the Mugen Fit (K20 in the Honda Fit) But if you want a 6 Speed on a Echo to maid to 1NZFE, I did drove one. I think every one know the Yaris/Echo is using C150 series tran. My friend using the C160 6 speed from a AE111 internal maid on the C150 tran with LSD. when I drive his 6 speed Echo, The car is response faster and Yes, I can use all the 6 gears even on the street. It is much closer ratio since the gear ratio is for a 1.6 4AGE instead of The C60 for the 1.8 2zz (6 speed for celica ZZ231). if you want the 6 speed Yaris while using 1NZFE, I think this is the only solution in the real live. Maybe when my friend get done on his 2zz echo, I can post some of the info in this forum.

[TRD_Yaris]

Originally Posted by RoninMax

I dont know about the The 2zz since my friend is trying to put on to his 2000Echo. (the original swap is made in Hong Kong to fight the Mugen Fit (K20 in the Honda Fit) But if you want a 6 Speed on a Echo to maid to 1NZFE, I did drove one. I think every one know the Yaris/Echo is using C150 series tran. My friend using the C160 6 speed from a AE111 internal maid on the C150 tran with LSD. when I drive his 6 speed Echo, The car is response faster and Yes, I can use all the 6 gears even on the street. It is much closer ratio since the gear ratio is for a 1.6 4AGE instead of The C60 for the 1.8 2zz (6 speed for celica ZZ231). if you want the 6 speed Yaris while using 1NZFE, I think this is the only solution in the real live. Maybe when my friend get done on his 2zz echo, I can post some of the info in this forum.

and, just because you're not going to "GET" to use the 6th gear on the 1/4 mile doesn't mean it's worthless. How about high speed racing, like turbo launching on the highway?? How about a dual purpose street/strip car where you ACTUALLY want to get good gas mileage when driving to the track?
And, like Ronin states above, there is a certain amount of "swappability" between the different engines/trannies. Why not a turbo 1ZZFE with 6 speed and LSD from 2ZZGE setup ?

[soros151]

Originally Posted by RoninMax

I dont know about the The 2zz since my friend is trying to put on to his 2000Echo. (the original swap is made in Hong Kong to fight the Mugen Fit (K20 in the Honda Fit) But if you want a 6 Speed on a Echo to maid to 1NZFE, I did drove one. I think every one know the Yaris/Echo is using C150 series tran. My friend using the C160 6 speed from a AE111 internal maid on the C150 tran with LSD. when I drive his 6 speed Echo, The car is response faster and Yes, I can use all the 6 gears even on the street. It is much closer ratio since the gear ratio is for a 1.6 4AGE instead of The C60 for the 1.8 2zz (6 speed for celica ZZ231). if you want the 6 speed Yaris while using 1NZFE, I think this is the only solution in the real live. Maybe when my friend get done on his 2zz echo, I can post some of the info in this forum.

Pleaaase post some info on this. Very interested.

[bulldogs2k]

k20 fit!!!! that should be fun. they k20 should make up for its mini van looks.
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[flow-vitz]

yo guys,
i just got a ncp91 few months back. Had some job done on it. trd full exhaust and header, trd cluch and flywheel,c-one pulley,trd suspension,trd quick shift, trd wheels, tm work spark firing system, hks plugs and hks intake system.thinking of a charger but not sure which one.

[soros151]

Sounds good, looks to me like 23whp increasement, or at least in that range.

[mikeukrainetz]

I know zilch about import engines and swaps (This is the first import ive owned - muscle cars have been more my style) but im assuming the same would apply as old school big blocks etc.

If you spend all that dough to get the Yaris to run 13s and can take on stock imports / domestics of a higher caliber wouldnt you eventually do the same with say the Subaru WRX or Sti? to run with bigger boys? I mean if your going to mod anyway, and chances are most of you on these sites are going to no matter what ride they have. Eventually your Subaru (or whatever) is running tight with a Vette. Seems youll always be trying to one-up no matter what you got...

That being said I cant aford to buy a 50grand subaru so dropping some cash into a small car to make it that quick would be awsome. That has been the formula for my 70 chev pickup and my former Camaro, build a big block for cheap and kill anything else at the lights.

[why?]

Its about embarissing others more than anything. Taking a Yaris and making it faster than cars twice as expensive.

[soros151]

Originally Posted by why?

Its about embarissing others more than anything. Taking a Yaris and making it faster than cars twice as expensive.

That's exactly what I mean! Take on the big boys with the little guns!

[soros151]

Not to bash, but if more stress is put on the motor it will wear out faster, thats a physics law. Put enough stress on a piece and it will eventually break, even if it takes a while.

[bulldogs2k]

i say wait for a turbo. Till then we can find out where/how to beef up the internals and prep for the change. My friend with a turbo s2k colored his intercooler black for the sleeper affect. If I had to go boost with the yaris/s2k, i would probably do the same.

[ChinoCharles]

Originally Posted by bulldogs2k

i say wait for a turbo. Till then we can find out where/how to beef up the internals and prep for the change.

Agreed

[bulldogs2k]

Originally Posted by ChinoCharles

Agreed

damn right!!!

all we have to do is wait.

I can use the down time to explain "why" we need boost to my gf.

[Kr0n1k]

http://www.stratisautosport.gr/en/pr...(1NZ-FE,2NZ-FE)

Although made for the same motor, I dunno what would fit in the new Yaris. However, an HKS kit would be nice. That, and some forged internals.

[fnkngrv]

Originally Posted by Kr0n1k

http://www.stratisautosport.gr/en/pr...(1NZ-FE,2NZ-FE)

Although made for the same motor, I dunno what would fit in the new Yaris. However, an HKS kit would be nice. That, and some forged internals.

If you notice one of the options they give is the 4E-FTE which I believe that I had mentioned earlier...I wonder how much is involved....the Echo and Yaris didn't share the same motor mounts with the Starlet and Tercel for example did they???

[OxyG3nE]

i want my yaris to get 150 200 hp. not much even if it cost me 10k i will be able to say i am one of the guy who have a yaris turbo in canada lol