Yaris Sedan Deadening and Sound system upgrade

[Alien Mantis]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

Indeed! The never ending story!

Here is SQcomp.... riding his luck dragon!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWnW-OuggoE
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[sqcomp]

AM - is it bad when I know this movie? I haven't seen it in years. Until now I had forgotten the names of the characters...

GAWD I'm old.

Sanding tonight. Talking with one of the best repair shops in the country about the P-01. They're having trouble finding the service manual for the "P" series decks (P-01 & P-99). I may be forced to send this back to my source in Japan. Funny...I type this sitting at a sushi bar just having finished some good Tako, Ebi & tempura...maybe I'm channeling some mojo.



^short hair worked. These things are SEXY! They're nice and heavy too. No resonance messing with the pillars. Perhaps I'm excited because I could plug them in right now and make things right...I need to get a filler coat on these then more sanding. Tomorrow night...







^First layer of primer. Here in a few, I'll go back into the garage and sand more. Oh yeah, there is two layers of filler that went under this that I didn't take pics of. I was to busy applying and sanding. You can see in that bottom picture that there's a high point in the filler just above the mid. I'll sand that down by hand and get any other pinhole blemishes. The I'll prime agian. After this priming, I'll get some texture and go from there.

Cleaning up around the garage...I finally found my backup battery keys to my alarm. This means I can disconnect the battery and take the airbag out so that I can replace the steering wheel with a leather wrapped Scion tC piece...In a week or two I'm thinking. I'll have the new processor in by then along with the backup source.

[derickveliz2]

New aiming looks like each mid is looking at each other, is that right?

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[sqcomp]

They're at the same height but no, they're aimed about 15 degrees up from horizontal. This aiming gives me rock solid imaging and height. The tweeters in the pillars are good for width, height and worrying less about crossover points. The "blend" will be easier than with the tweeters separated as they were this year. I could have it sounding off tonight if I pleased but...I want absolute control before info this again...and with the P-01 acting all bejiggity, I'd rather not risk it.

I also put a couple layers of high build primer on the pillars as well. Lots of work gets done when I don't have a wife hanging around. The "to do" list becomes very basic and simple.

Edit: I got my paws on the service manual for the P-99RS...anyone who started this post that needs one in the future knows now where to get it and give it to a repair center if needed. My P-01 is going out the Pyramid Audio tomorrow morning. Within the month, I'll be back up working again.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

They're at the same height but no, they're aimed about 15 degrees up from horizontal. This aiming gives me rock solid imaging and height. The tweeters in the pillars are good for width, height and worrying less about crossover points.

Do you mean Tweeters in Sail Panels?

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[derickveliz2]

I just order another port system for my experiment with 2 i6SW's!



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[sqcomp]

Yes, I misspoke, the sail panels, not the pillars.

[derickveliz2]

Some Left and Right EQ...






More tuning soon...

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[sqcomp]

I know this exercise...We don't center match in the mid and sub bass regions simply because at 175 Hz and below, the bass isn't localizing for the most part. I'd imagine this is going to change drastically when the mids are back on top. I have to make a mic jig and find a 3055 I can play with locally...

The sub however is down 9 dB

You can also see I had to pump up the output. My gains are pretty much off...I suppose I could change that though.

[derickveliz2]

I enjoy doing several passes at different conditions for example....
parked with engine off, parked with engine in idle and then driving at about 70 mph.




T/A




X-over Points

[trdvvti07]

So heres the thing. 2 -400w amps pushing 2- 12" Terminator subs each independent of one another. My trunk rattles... my gas door rattles... looking through my rearview is like having michael j fox holding it. So what do I do to eliminate the vibration? without compromising sound quality? 2-subs-4-mids-4 voice....

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by trdvvti07

So heres the thing. 2 -400w amps pushing 2- 12" Terminator subs each independent of one another. My trunk rattles... my gas door rattles... looking through my rearview is like having michael j fox holding it. So what do I do to eliminate the vibration? without compromising sound quality? 2-subs-4-mids-4 voice....

My guess is that you won't, but you could minimize it with Mat and more Mat and several layers of Mat...

Then last resource is... turn down the gains to mach your other speakers.

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[sqcomp]

D,

throw this T/A in and give it a try just for the hell of it (I think this is CM not IN IIRC)...and actually you can reduce the sub too I think. I was just playing with that part:

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

D,
throw this T/A in and give it a try just for the hell of it (I think this is CM not IN IIRC)...and actually you can reduce the sub too I think. I was just playing with that part:

I will, but looks odd...

Inside the Pioneer world 155.39" (max number in TA) means (0) zero delay, and what I do is to delay the closest speakers to my left ear to get the signal rich both ears at the same time. That is why you see my right Mid at 155.39" and every thing goes from there.

If I had the sub in the trunk that would be the furthest speaker and will get 0 (zero) delay AKA 155.39"

0" (zero) would be like to delay at maximum the left side Mid and Mid/Bass




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[derickveliz2]

These may not mean a lot to YarisWorld, but to my ears it's like GOLD!



Right side:


Left side:



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[sqcomp]

I'm more interested in the equalization more than the time alignment anyway. There was a huge difference between your system and mine, seeing as mine had that processor on it. The messed up thing is that every brand does their time alignment different it seems. You'll see where I go when I get the P01 repaired... And what ever processor I put in there.

I just had an offer from one of the Arc dealers and I'm still comparing with the Zapco dealer as well on the processors. We just have to see what happens after the P01 gets back from repair.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

I'm more interested in the equalization more than the time alignment anyway. There was a huge difference between your system and mine, seeing as mine had that processor on it. The messed up thing is that every brand does their time alignment different it seems. You'll see where I go when I get the P01 repaired... And what ever processor I put in there.

I just had an offer from one of the Arc dealers and I'm still comparing with the Zapco dealer as well on the processors. We just have to see what happens after the P01 gets back from repair.

Yes, equalization had a much bigger impact than Time alignment for the...

WOW Factor!

Yes every brand does it different, took me a while to understand each method and assuming milliseconds against inches, but at some point TA had to be the same function.

How come I never get offers? I should market more aggressive LOL

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[sqcomp]

Mmm...there are probably several reasons why no offers.

They aren't because you're not a nice guy. The biggest reason is that these manufacturers have seen my face at CES for several years now. I suppose you could say I'm known in the industry. All of this is based on my appearances at CES really. Networking man, networking! Heck, You know that Arc audio piece the PS8? I have that in my hands last year. I saw how it worked in the demo vehicle. I saw its physical size without it's "big shroud" and yeah... I mean I had the attention of one of the players at Arc audio even though I'm not running any Arc audio gear. All of this just by attending CES and spending a few minutes talking to people and the little fact that I can cook and I was able to give people food when they were really hungry. Time and place mang...time and place.

Not only the CES factor but those people know me and they see how I support the brick-and-mortar stores. I've also been responsible for making IASCA a factor here in the Northwest again.

It's terrible but it seems like I'm playing my own trumpet here but really I'm not. It's just several factors I mentioned plus there some other factors aside from what I mentioned before. The thing is Derick, you could do the same thing.

All it is is simply time invested into the industry & face time with networking. It all started 12 years ago when I decided to work for a few months at a high end stereo shop. That's where I met Jim before he owned his first shop. That snowballed into appearances at CES and INAC finals.