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screenprintr · 11-20-2012, 12:00 AM

Don't mean to bump your thread. However, I have a question I believe you can answer.

I read a bunch of the threads but couldn't find the answer. It'll take forever to read them all.

Someone mentioned taking off the C-Pillar Trim/Cover. I need to check the drive side. It has an Airbag. How did you go about this? Is their a Yaris book that covers this?

Thanks, Paul

sickpuppy1 · 11-20-2012, 08:40 AM

It has a airbag label. The actual airbag is in the area right beside your head....a curtain. It blows down in case of side impact.

sqcomp · 11-20-2012, 08:18 PM

^ x2

Derick and I have a LOT of experience with these. What'll happen is that you'll pop the top end out. It'll come off just an inch or two. At that point there are two swivel clips in the middle portion of the pillar. You CAN manipulate these manually (without tools). You need to turn those clips 90 degrees and the pillar will release up and out.

screenprintr · 11-21-2012, 07:11 PM

Thanks sqcomp. Is there any issues with the Airbag being there?

sqcomp · 11-22-2012, 12:07 AM

Issues with the airbags? Not really.

The only thing is, when you re-install the pillar and turn the clips back to secure the assembly, make sure that the "small end" of the clips is facing down. If the smaller end of the rotating clip is up, the clips won't seat correctly.

Something tells me that I'll have to take a picture...

derickveliz2 · 11-24-2012, 01:08 AM

I saw this brochure and I got an idea!

D.

sqcomp · 11-24-2012, 01:36 PM

And? Share!

I installed the Whiteline 22mm rear sway on the car on Thursday. Nice stuff right there. Turn in is almost effortless. I get a bit more feedback from the tires themselves. That sway bar seems to take the rear end movement down and place it on the front wheels much more significantly. The rear end wiggle is much more controlled, dare I say almost non existant. I'm waiting for a dry day to see what these tires can actually do...

derickveliz2 · 11-24-2012, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sqcomp

And? Share!

It would be for Shows and Meets!

D.

derickveliz2 · 11-24-2012, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sqcomp

And? Share!

I installed the Whiteline 22mm rear sway on the car on Thursday. Nice stuff right there. Turn in is almost effortless. I get a bit more feedback from the tires themselves. That sway bar seems to take the rear end movement down and place it on the front wheels much more significantly. The rear end wiggle is much more controlled, dare I say almost non existant. I'm waiting for a dry day to see what these tires can actually do...

Isn't that awesome!
The best mod for suspension, I remember when I tested mine after installing, besides a big smile on my face I said... "Feels like a Go-Cart"

Improved the stability at high way speeds 100% I'm talking my cruising commute that ranges between 70-90 MPH

D.

derickveliz2 · 11-24-2012, 11:07 PM

Some thing like this!

D.

derickveliz2 · 11-24-2012, 11:54 PM

Ok today I found an awesome way to adjust my center image:

I had my cellphone right in front of the instrument panel (arrow 1) with the GPS rolling and telling me what was my next turn. When... I just realized that...

While listening to a track with a very solid center image I noticed the voice of the singer was behind my cellphone's voice, a little bit to the left, so...

I moved my phone above the instrument panel (arrow 2) now playing a song... Still my center image was behind so...

I moved my phone behind the instrument cluster (arrow 3) in the center of the dashboard where the windshield meets... (Note that this position is about 5 feet from my right ear)

My center image was some how next to the phone's (playing another song in speaker voice) so...

I proceed to adjust my Time Alignment (T/A) to mach the position of my cellphone playing a different song, since it's mono gives me the feedback of a center channel where I can match my center image.

End result while experimenting with this was really good and makes sense to me, what do you think?

Conclusion: a new way of Tuning may be accomplish using my cellphone with one speaker and placing the speaker on arrow 3 (see image below) adjusting Left and Right EQ and T/A to match my center image. I got to try this over my lunch time this week.

D.

sqcomp · 11-25-2012, 12:18 AM

Phasing! It's all about phasing.

derickveliz2 · 11-25-2012, 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sqcomp

Phasing! It's all about phasing.

I know about phasing in my own way of thinking, from...

Subwoofer > Lows < Mids > Tweeters

But I'm confused on if it's a left to right phasing?

Could you expand and explain a little bit more about phasing, please

D.

sqcomp · 11-25-2012, 11:38 PM

Think phasing for imaging detail and amplitude for imaging placement.

With the P-99, don't be afraid to play with the amplitude of the left and right on the four way crossovers.

Oh! It looks like I've sold one of my big amps. I'll be replacing it with a full range D class piece 1/4 of the weight.

derickveliz2 · 11-27-2012, 01:13 AM

This is what I did today...

By putting my cell-phone on speaker (on arrow 3) Playing Pink Noise
I get a physical sense of where the center image would be.

Then I go through the process of playing each frequency induvidually and
adjusting my EQ, Left & Right to match the location of the Pink Noise played by my cell-phone.

I did it once this afternoon and works really good, after comparing my previous set up (Left & Right EQ by ear)
improved the center image and I believe I can go further out one more time
by projecting the physical location of my Pink Noise source to the left,
therefore placing the center image even further outside the windshield.

We'll see.

D.

derickveliz2 · 12-03-2012, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by derickveliz2

I did it once this afternoon and works really good, after comparing my previous set up (Left & Right EQ by ear)
improved the center image and I believe I can go further out one more time
by projecting the physical location of my Pink Noise source to the left,
therefore placing the center image even further outside the windshield.

We'll see.

D.

Well after trying and trying didn't work and I found out why!

My right tweeter is not working at all!

Trouble shout all the way down from the RCA to the amp and the signal at the wires, every thing was fine, my right tweeter is not working!

D.

derickveliz2 · 12-03-2012, 11:19 AM

Just for fun... Shots

The Beauty and The Beast...

D.

derickveliz2 · 12-03-2012, 09:16 PM

So after contacting Hybrid Audio Technologies for help the Founder (Scott E. Buwalda) replies back withing 7 minutes...

That's is what I call "Costumer Support"

Try that with Pioneer and/or Hertz! I've done it before and takes about 2 weeks to get a reply.

D.

11-20-2012, 08:40 AM	#2
sickpuppy1 Drives: 2010 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kansas Posts: 871	It has a airbag label. The actual airbag is in the area right beside your head....a curtain. It blows down in case of side impact. __________________

11-20-2012, 08:18 PM	#3
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	^ x2 Derick and I have a LOT of experience with these. What'll happen is that you'll pop the top end out. It'll come off just an inch or two. At that point there are two swivel clips in the middle portion of the pillar. You CAN manipulate these manually (without tools). You need to turn those clips 90 degrees and the pillar will release up and out. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

11-22-2012, 12:07 AM	#5
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	Issues with the airbags? Not really. The only thing is, when you re-install the pillar and turn the clips back to secure the assembly, make sure that the "small end" of the clips is facing down. If the smaller end of the rotating clip is up, the clips won't seat correctly. Something tells me that I'll have to take a picture... __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

11-24-2012, 01:08 AM	#6
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	I saw this brochure and I got an idea! D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

11-24-2012, 01:36 PM	#7
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	And? Share! I installed the Whiteline 22mm rear sway on the car on Thursday. Nice stuff right there. Turn in is almost effortless. I get a bit more feedback from the tires themselves. That sway bar seems to take the rear end movement down and place it on the front wheels much more significantly. The rear end wiggle is much more controlled, dare I say almost non existant. I'm waiting for a dry day to see what these tires can actually do... __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

11-20-2012, 12:00 AM	#1
screenprintr Drives: 2010 Toyota Yaris Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: New Jersey Posts: 213	Don't mean to bump your thread. However, I have a question I believe you can answer. I read a bunch of the threads but couldn't find the answer. It'll take forever to read them all. Someone mentioned taking off the C-Pillar Trim/Cover. I need to check the drive side. It has an Airbag. How did you go about this? Is their a Yaris book that covers this? Thanks, Paul

11-21-2012, 07:11 PM	#4
screenprintr Drives: 2010 Toyota Yaris Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: New Jersey Posts: 213	Thanks sqcomp. Is there any issues with the Airbag being there?

11-24-2012, 11:07 PM	#10
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	Some thing like this! D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

11-24-2012, 11:54 PM	#11
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	Ok today I found an awesome way to adjust my center image: I had my cellphone right in front of the instrument panel (arrow 1) with the GPS rolling and telling me what was my next turn. When... I just realized that... While listening to a track with a very solid center image I noticed the voice of the singer was behind my cellphone's voice, a little bit to the left, so... I moved my phone above the instrument panel (arrow 2) now playing a song... Still my center image was behind so... I moved my phone behind the instrument cluster (arrow 3) in the center of the dashboard where the windshield meets... (Note that this position is about 5 feet from my right ear) My center image was some how next to the phone's (playing another song in speaker voice) so... I proceed to adjust my Time Alignment (T/A) to mach the position of my cellphone playing a different song, since it's mono gives me the feedback of a center channel where I can match my center image. End result while experimenting with this was really good and makes sense to me, what do you think? Conclusion: a new way of Tuning may be accomplish using my cellphone with one speaker and placing the speaker on arrow 3 (see image below) adjusting Left and Right EQ and T/A to match my center image. I got to try this over my lunch time this week. D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

11-25-2012, 12:18 AM	#12
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	Phasing! It's all about phasing. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

11-25-2012, 11:38 PM	#14
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	Think phasing for imaging detail and amplitude for imaging placement. With the P-99, don't be afraid to play with the amplitude of the left and right on the four way crossovers. Oh! It looks like I've sold one of my big amps. I'll be replacing it with a full range D class piece 1/4 of the weight. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

11-27-2012, 01:13 AM	#15
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	This is what I did today... By putting my cell-phone on speaker (on arrow 3) Playing Pink Noise I get a physical sense of where the center image would be. Then I go through the process of playing each frequency induvidually and adjusting my EQ, Left & Right to match the location of the Pink Noise played by my cell-phone. I did it once this afternoon and works really good, after comparing my previous set up (Left & Right EQ by ear) improved the center image and I believe I can go further out one more time by projecting the physical location of my Pink Noise source to the left, therefore placing the center image even further outside the windshield. We'll see. D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

12-03-2012, 11:19 AM	#17
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	Just for fun... Shots The Beauty and The Beast... D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

12-03-2012, 09:16 PM	#18
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	So after contacting Hybrid Audio Technologies for help the Founder (Scott E. Buwalda) replies back withing 7 minutes... That's is what I call "Costumer Support" Try that with Pioneer and/or Hertz! I've done it before and takes about 2 weeks to get a reply. D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

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