Shifting without the clutch

[AND189]

everyone is an expert on here that is why we are here ha ha i was keen to master the clutchless shift just to see if i can do it

lutchless shifting is ok for straight cut gears not helical like the Yaris

well i can say i only did it once not a good sound ha ha, but if someone can shed some light on speed / rpm just to see if i can do it, it would be helpful mark293 ???

[Yaris Hilton]

Originally Posted by AND189

everyone is an expert on here that is why we are here ha ha

You got it!

[thebarber]

maybe try microimageonline.com forums...

stick around here too, not all the people are pretards

[tomato]

Originally Posted by mark293

Does anyone routinely shift without using the clutch? I did this for years on my 5 speed F350, and as long as you are in the right rpm range the shifts are just as smooth as using the clutch. The Yaris seems tailor made for this type of driving if you use common sense.

No. I don't think the clutch would like it one bit. .02

[thebarber]

Originally Posted by tomato

No. I don't think the clutch would like it one bit. .02

clutch wouldnt care....its not getting used....

mark293, im not sure people on this site have every heard about shifting without the clutch...

[ddongbap]

I do it when I'm tired. I down shift w/o the clutch too. 'Cept one time, it made this HUGE clunk. Even huger than normal, and the car did a jolt slow. Idk what it was, but I ignored it.

[ddongbap]

Btw, you guys rage too much. If hes doing it wrong, tell him so. But let him keep doing it wrong. Who cares?

[djct_watt]

A good skill to have, but it is abusing the transmission. I hurt my left leg badly in a motorcycle accident once, and had to drive myself to the hospital. . . I did it all on one leg. It was in the Yaris.

Use the right leg to engage the clutch and start moving without any gas (lucky there were no hills). Once first was going, it was easy. Clutchless shifting from there on out (and it's very easy). Any car can be shifted that way. . . but your shifts have to be perfect. Mess up once and it's a hard grind. IMO, it's not worth it since it's so easy to just press the clutch.

If I was that lazy, then I would have gotten an auto.

[sickpuppy1]

Truckers do it all the time, but the dont have sychro's and they are designed for this type of shifting after leaving low gear, I've heard its not good on the synchronizers also, but I'm no tranny expert. Funny, heres a video for ya, its called rev matching.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLw0h...=youtu.be&a%29

[Yaris Hilton]

Originally Posted by sickpuppy1

Truckers do it all the time, but the dont have sychro's and they are designed for this type of shifting after leaving low gear, I've heard its not good on the synchronizers also, but I'm no tranny expert. Funny, heres a video for ya, its called rev matching.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLw0h...=youtu.be&a%29

Rev matching = double clutching. The idea is to make the two shafts spin at the same speed before they come together. You can do that during the time the transmission's in a "neutral" state between gears without the clutch, but unless you can control the throttle so the gears have zero load on them as you're disengaging and engaging them, you're going to stress them more. The clutch is there to be used. Clutchless shifting is something to do in an emergency.

[ddongbap]

Originally Posted by Yaris Hilton

Rev matching = double clutching. The idea is to make the two shafts spin at the same speed before they come together. You can do that during the time the transmission's in a "neutral" state between gears without the clutch, but unless you can control the throttle so the gears have zero load on them as you're disengaging and engaging them, you're going to stress them more. The clutch is there to be used. Clutchless shifting is something to do in an emergency.

Its not the same thing though. They end up doing the same thing, but are done so in different ways.

[thebarber]

Originally Posted by Yaris Hilton

Rev matching = double clutching

wrong

[ddongbap]

Originally Posted by thebarber

wrong

RONG.

[thebarber]

Originally Posted by ddongbap

RONG.

i rev match w/o double clutching daily. double clutching is for trannies w/o synchro's.

[CtrlAltDefeat]

after all the drama in this thread, and watching that video on how to shift without using the clutch, I decided to try it. It worked surprisingly well... no grinding, no loud noises, just a slight bump when shifting. I cannot vouch for it's long term reliability, but it seems like a handy skill if you ever need it (hurt leg, clutch problems etc.) Sayuki handled it like a champ.

[darkmoon87]

Originally Posted by CtrlAltDefeat

after all the drama in this thread, and watching that video on how to shift without using the clutch, I decided to try it. It worked surprisingly well... no grinding, no loud noises, just a slight bump when shifting. I cannot vouch for it's long term reliability, but it seems like a handy skill if you ever need it (hurt leg, clutch problems etc.) Sayuki handled it like a champ.

i tried it too and it works without any problem what so ever.

a good thing to know for sure.

[Yar Is Word]

Anyone remember "Clutch Cargo"?

[Yaris Hilton]

Originally Posted by Yar Is Word

Anyone remember "Clutch Cargo"?

I do!