Toyota sandbagging the Yaris

[marcus]

37mpg here,, slightly heavier rims and tire set up.

[wsladaritz]

question: How are you figuring the mpg? I set the trip meter to 0 when I fill up. On the next fill up I divide the miles by the gallons put into the tank. According to that method the best I have every gotten was 38.... and that was just once. I generally get around 31-34. I kept track for about the first 2 years. But I haven't been keeping track for about 1 1/2 years now.

Is that how you are calculating mpg's? Or are you using a tool that gives constant updates to your mpg? Like 127.0.0.1 said about getting 348 rolling down the driveway, but if you were driving up a hill it would display something much lower... like 20 something or maybe. Cause I know my sisters Envoy has all that fancy computer stuff measuring all that for her and I can get it to display 80+ under the right conditions. But I can also get it to display 6.

[The little red pill]

Originally Posted by wsladaritz

question: How are you figuring the mpg? I set the trip meter to 0 when I fill up. On the next fill up I divide the miles by the gallons put into the tank. According to that method the best I have every gotten was 38.... and that was just once. I generally get around 31-34. I kept track for about the first 2 years. But I haven't been keeping track for about 1 1/2 years now.

Is that how you are calculating mpg's? Or are you using a tool that gives constant updates to your mpg? Like 127.0.0.1 said about getting 348 rolling down the driveway, but if you were driving up a hill it would display something much lower... like 20 something or maybe. Cause I know my sisters Envoy has all that fancy computer stuff measuring all that for her and I can get it to display 80+ under the right conditions. But I can also get it to display 6.

Exactly! I average about 33-36 driving very easy and rarely use a/c, mostly highway driving at 60mph. I question the techniques of some of the people who go 75 mph+ with a/c going that claim 40+ mpg. I'm very specific about my recording technique and have been through Calculus II in college so I know my calculations. lol

[auxmike]

I've not broken 32mpg in 2+ years of ownership.
I'm getting a steady 30 mpg and that's with A/C on everyday this summer.
The best I ever got on my '97 Saturn twin cam was about 28mpg on a 1.9L engine. It was a stick shift, BTW.
I guess the 5 speed makes a huge difference....

[firemachine69]

Originally Posted by The little red pill

Exactly! I average about 33-36 driving very easy and rarely use a/c, mostly highway driving at 60mph. I question the techniques of some of the people who go 75 mph+ with a/c going that claim 40+ mpg. I'm very specific about my recording technique and have been through Calculus II in college so I know my calculations. lol

Ambient temperature plays a HUGE factor in fuel economy, I've noticed the 1NZ-FE is particularly sensitive to incoming air temperature, when it comes to overall fuel-economy.

[Steveh27]

My first check of mpg was on a 120 mile stretch of I94, going 74 mph using cruise control with the AC on. It was in the mid 80's outside. I write down the odometer reading when filling the tank. I got 39.6 mph. Tires had 32 psi.

In town I've gotten between 33.5-36 mpg.

[127.0.0.1]

Originally Posted by wsladaritz

question: How are you figuring the mpg? I set the trip meter to 0 when I fill up. On the next fill up I divide the miles by the gallons put into the tank. According to that method the best I have every gotten was 38.... and that was just once. I generally get around 31-34. I kept track for about the first 2 years. But I haven't been keeping track for about 1 1/2 years now.

Is that how you are calculating mpg's? Or are you using a tool that gives constant updates to your mpg? Like 127.0.0.1 said about getting 348 rolling down the driveway, but if you were driving up a hill it would display something much lower... like 20 something or maybe. Cause I know my sisters Envoy has all that fancy computer stuff measuring all that for her and I can get it to display 80+ under the right conditions. But I can also get it to display 6.

scangauge and consistent fill-up procedure and setting the scangauge with
actual gas pumped in to 1st click. pretty durn accurate

[brg88tx]

my guess is toyota sandbagged the yaris so it wouldn't take away prius sales.

[Happy Little Pony]

The EPA changed its testing criteria after the 2007 model year. My 2007 was rated at 40mpg highway. Under the new standards, it only rates 36. Check it out at http://www.fueleconomy.gov

For what it's worth, I can generally beat 36mpg in city driving. I can get above 40 on the highway without any tricks, dangerous or otherwise.

[yarrr]

hahaha. Sorry to everyone in this thread, I searched ebay for panty untwisters to no avail.

I hold by my statement. Read redlittlepill and wsla's posts. You are all padding your numbers, or doing something unsafe. At least bailout admits he does dumb stuff like 60 psi and shutting the engine off going down hill.

The average driver won't drive enough city, won't drive enough long trips, and won't accelerate slow enough to ever see 40 mpg. Congrats if you do(and you aren't lying like 99% of people who feel the need to post their mpg on the internet).

[SLIK4]

Originally Posted by yarrr

hahaha. Sorry to everyone in this thread, I searched ebay for panty untwisters to no avail.

I hold by my statement. Read redlittlepill and wsla's posts. You are all padding your numbers, or doing something unsafe. At least bailout admits he does dumb stuff like 60 psi and shutting the engine off going down hill.

The average driver won't drive enough city, won't drive enough long trips, and won't accelerate slow enough to ever see 40 mpg. Congrats if you do(and you aren't lying like 99% of people who feel the need to post their mpg on the internet).

it sure isn't very nice to assume 99% of the people are lying. sounds to me like you are just looking to start something.

i can't speak for gas mileage because i don't keep track. but for toyota not showing commercials it's probably because the yaris is selling well enough for them that they don't need to spend the extra cash on advertisements.

[wsladaritz]

Originally Posted by SLIK4

... toyota not showing commercials it's probably because the yaris is selling well enough for them that they don't need to spend the extra cash on advertisements.

I know the commercials sold me!!! I saw one during superbowl the year before they came out. I said to folks,"I'm gonna get me one of those! That car looks awesome!" 10-2006 I fulfilled my self-proclaimed prophecy!!

[Hershey]

Originally Posted by yarrr

hahaha. Sorry to everyone in this thread, I searched ebay for panty untwisters to no avail.

I hold by my statement. Read redlittlepill and wsla's posts. You are all padding your numbers, or doing something unsafe. At least bailout admits he does dumb stuff like 60 psi and shutting the engine off going down hill.

The average driver won't drive enough city, won't drive enough long trips, and won't accelerate slow enough to ever see 40 mpg. Congrats if you do(and you aren't lying like 99% of people who feel the need to post their mpg on the internet).

it's no . Being honest .

[jambo101]

Just quoting my scangauge readings,Average fuel economy readings = 36-38 around town and 44 to 47 at 70mph on the highway.

[sickpuppy1]

Originally Posted by yarrr

hahaha. Sorry to everyone in this thread, I searched ebay for panty untwisters to no avail.

I hold by my statement. Read redlittlepill and wsla's posts. You are all padding your numbers, or doing something unsafe. At least bailout admits he does dumb stuff like 60 psi and shutting the engine off going down hill.

The average driver won't drive enough city, won't drive enough long trips, and won't accelerate slow enough to ever see 40 mpg. Congrats if you do(and you aren't lying like 99% of people who feel the need to post their mpg on the internet).

I'm actually kinda suprised you hang here if were a bunch of liars! Not sure why you got that jaded, but it is what it is. I keep my tires at 38psi and I do admit My driving habits have mellowed since I got the Yaris, but only in the respect that I'm aware of avoiding quick starts off the line and I dont do 80+ on the highway on my way home. I stick closer to 70-75 and I use the AC alot. Use cruise alot too, but that mostly cause of brainfade while listening to music. I routinely get 38 to 39mpg with it like it is...stock except the tire pressure, my spoiler I bought on ebay and the rear swaybar from microimage (I want to be honest about it ya know....)
On the tire pressure thing, I don't believe in going over the max sidewall pressure in any situation. Realize that the mfg rating is a compromise between handling and comfort. The softer tire rides better , but rolls over when handling. The higher pressure handles good but rides real stiff and is harder on the suspension. You may or may not know that the softer (32psi) actually runs hotter and more prone to blow outs than a higher pressure due to increased rolling resistance. An under inflated tire is as much if not more un-safe than than a slightly over inflated tire due to that. I run 38 because for me, going higher just gets too rough. As it is, people still comment on how good it rides for a small car! I have gotten over 40 twice on a 99% highway trip at 70-75 with ac, so it is possible without trying very hard. I wonder if, since you are in New Mexico, that your altitude is much higher and that's why yours is lower? I'm at like 700 ft above. but the humidity here sucks big time!!! I don't care if it is better on mileage,I'd give up 3-4 mpg to have the Colorado humidity back.
Oh yeah, mine is a 2010 sedan w/automatic

[yarrr]

Originally Posted by sickpuppy1

I'm actually kinda suprised you hang here if were a bunch of liars! Not sure why you got that jaded, but it is what it is. I keep my tires at 38psi and I do admit My driving habits have mellowed since I got the Yaris, but only in the respect that I'm aware of avoiding quick starts off the line and I dont do 80+ on the highway on my way home. I stick closer to 70-75 and I use the AC alot. Use cruise alot too, but that mostly cause of brainfade while listening to music. I routinely get 38 to 39mpg with it like it is...stock except the tire pressure, my spoiler I bought on ebay and the rear swaybar from microimage (I want to be honest about it ya know....)
On the tire pressure thing, I don't believe in going over the max sidewall pressure in any situation. Realize that the mfg rating is a compromise between handling and comfort. The softer tire rides better , but rolls over when handling. The higher pressure handles good but rides real stiff and is harder on the suspension. You may or may not know that the softer (32psi) actually runs hotter and more prone to blow outs than a higher pressure due to increased rolling resistance. An under inflated tire is as much if not more un-safe than than a slightly over inflated tire due to that. I run 38 because for me, going higher just gets too rough. As it is, people still comment on how good it rides for a small car! I have gotten over 40 twice on a 99% highway trip at 70-75 with ac, so it is possible without trying very hard. I wonder if, since you are in New Mexico, that your altitude is much higher and that's why yours is lower? I'm at like 700 ft above. but the humidity here sucks big time!!! I don't care if it is better on mileage,I'd give up 3-4 mpg to have the Colorado humidity back.
Oh yeah, mine is a 2010 sedan w/automatic

Everything you've said is believable, and you're not breaking 40 even with conservative driving(unless as you say its a 99% hwy trip). Are we seeing a pattern yet?

Safe/Sane the yaris won't break 40 mpg in MOST conditions. Breaking laws and driving unsafely, its easy to get most 4 cylinder light cars above 40 mpg.

And I never said I don't like reading the FE/fantasy threads. I enjoy it thoroughly.

[R2D2]

Well I calculate at the pump the old fashioned way and my last two tanks were 46.2 mpg and 45.4 mpg respectively. With a granny tranny, almost constant AC use, mostly 10 mile trips in very hilly rural/in town/city driving. I do not "pad my numbers".

The "stupid" stuff I do includes 60 psi in tires, moderate acceleration, speed limit or slightly less, timing traffic lights, minimize idle time, and maximize effective DFCO use.

Gotta love the mentality where one hasn't done it so others who have must be lying.

Does it take effort? Yes. More than most would deem feasible I'm afraid. I still can't hold a candle to some here in terms of FE but I'm trying and steadily improving.
Oh, and for those that don't like people posting about their FE here's a tip-don't read FE threads!

R2

[tk-421]

Originally Posted by R2D2

Oh, and for those that don't like people posting about their FE here's a tip-don't read FE threads!