Go4th's Nearly Finished Flint Mica Yaris S

[Chris07LB]

FYI - your rear springs are installed UPSIDE DOWN.

[Go4th]

Originally Posted by Chris07LB

FYI - your rear springs are installed UPSIDE DOWN.

The TRD instructions said put the tightly wound springs twards the top. The damn trd instructions where not very understandable!
I put that picture on here hoping someone might say something!
Its funny me and my buddy put them in the other way going with what we thought it should be and then we reread that damn instruction sheet and convinced ourselves by the wording that it was upside down because it was trd springs or something so we pulled them back out and fliped them over. Even looking at the pics of your instructions clearly it is supposed to be the other way but thought too much into the damn trd instructions and fliped them.. dang.. well wont take long to correct though..
Thanks!

[Ryosuke]

Hey Go4th I really like your car, congrats man! It got attitude

[ChinoCharles]

Good call Chris.

[Go4th]

Originally Posted by ChinoCharles

Good call Chris.

Dude, take off that laughing smiley.. I am already embarrassed enough! lol j/k..

I am embarrassed 4realdo

[ChinoCharles]

Haha, I'm not laughing at you buddy, I'm laughing with you.

Wanna go tit-for-tat on stupid things we've done to our cars? I'll win.

[magoo_lc1]

The car looks more accord now. Thats a compliment. It looks more exspensive. The wheels mut be boat anchors though. But i understand the look you are going for. Nice looking sedan

[Go4th]

Originally Posted by magoo_lc1

The car looks more accord now. Thats a compliment. It looks more exspensive. The wheels mut be boat anchors though. But i understand the look you are going for. Nice looking sedan

lol.. I am going to weigh my wheel and tire I have on it with the same scale I weighed my factory wheels and we will see. 33.5 lbs for the factory wheel on my scale in the bathroom. That wheel feels heavier than what i have now. They are not Konig lightweight wheels but none of the Konigs are really that heavy..
I also did not notice that much weight difference when I put the new wheels on. I am sure there is some though, hopefully under 4lbs...

[Nimble]

Originally Posted by Go4th

lol.. I am going to weigh my wheel and tire I have on it with the same scale I weighed my factory wheels and we will see. 33.5 lbs for the factory wheel on my scale in the bathroom. That wheel feels heavier than what i have now. They are not Konig lightweight wheels but none of the Konigs are really that heavy..
I also did not notice that much weight difference when I put the new wheels on. I am sure there is some though, hopefully under 4lbs...

Your 18's will be MUCH heavier than only 4 lbs more. Those tires alone are about 4lbs each heavier than the stock 15's, and those 18's are at least 22lbs each. I'd guess you added 45lbs of unsprung weight total to that car. Completely negating the benefits of those "bolt on" mods. Your car would be faster stock. Funny how sound makes us think our cars as faster than they really are. Intakes have a funny way of making us "think" we're faster when it's just louder...think ricers with fart pipes revving all over town.

EDIT: Don't take the above the wrong way. I think the huge wheels, drop, tint, stereo, paintjob, etc, if done tastefully like you've done are nice. Just don't come in telling us a turd 1.5 liter gained 'noticeable' amounts of power from a lame header/intake combo. That 5hp you picked up total is washed away by oversized wheels for what the car needs. In a car like the Yaris, do it for total performance (and by being smart, this perf upgrade can look great too with tasteful light 16" wheels), or do it for looks like you've done. I feel like you're trying to do 2 things at once, and not being smart about it. Shoot, even a lightweight 17" wheel combo would make a huge difference.

[bigsky2]

Originally Posted by Nimble

Your 18's will be MUCH heavier than only 4 lbs more. Those tires alone are about 4lbs each heavier than the stock 15's, and those 18's are at least 22lbs each. I'd guess you added 45lbs of unsprung weight total to that car. Completely negating the benefits of those "bolt on" mods. Your car would be faster stock. Funny how sound makes us think our cars as faster than they really are. Intakes have a funny way of making us "think" we're faster when it's just louder...think ricers with fart pipes revving all over town.

EDIT: Don't take the above the wrong way. I think the huge wheels, drop, tint, stereo, paintjob, etc, if done tastefully like you've done are nice. Just don't come in telling us a turd 1.5 liter gained 'noticeable' amounts of power from a lame header/intake combo. That 5hp you picked up total is washed away by oversized wheels for what the car needs. In a car like the Yaris, do it for total performance (and by being smart, this perf upgrade can look great too with tasteful light 16" wheels), or do it for looks like you've done. I feel like you're trying to do 2 things at once, and not being smart about it. Shoot, even a lightweight 17" wheel combo would make a huge difference.

This is almost the same way I feel about what I've done with my car so far.

I changed the wheels to 17" (17lbs each wheel, do not know what the weight is with tires), added a strut tower bar, stereo equipment up the yin-yang, and I still need to do the sound deadening. I've probably added at least another 75lbs to my car from the above. Now I really wonder what effect this extra weight has on my performance oriented addons - Intake, Exhaust, Lowering Springs.

I'll be lucky if the weight and extra power cancel eachother out

[ChinoCharles]

What are you going to paint it Go4th? Can I have your flint mica paint when you're done? Just peel it off in a big sheet and mail it to me.

[eTiMaGo]

hahaha I'm stuck in this quandary as well... I want to make my car look really good, but on the other hand I also do want it to be fast and handling well. I love my 18" rims, but I'm increasingly wanting to swap them out for some lighter 17" or even 16" and gain back some lost acceleration. I have a nice strong thick wood shelf at the back for my subwoofer, gives nice thumping bass, but damn it is heavy...

What to do? Get another Yaris and build one for show, one for go?

[largeorangefont]

Great upgrades! The car looks very tasteful.

Those wheels are doing more to hurt performance than your power mods are gaining you though. Not trying to pick a fight, it just is what it is.

Even if you had 18s that were the same weight as 15s, the 15s would still give better performance because the bulk of the weight is more centralized. It is just simple physics.

With everything you have done, the overall gain is very positive. The car handles better, runs better and looks great. Good job.

[bigsky2]

ChinoCharles:
I think you have another competitor for Resident Shit Disturber.

Nimble:
This is ridiculing to the MAX!

[Nimble]

Originally Posted by bigsky2

ChinoCharles:
I think you have another competitor for Resident Shit Disturber.

Nimble:
This is ridiculing to the MAX!

What can I say, I guess I'm the black sheep because I don't condone the riceage of a Yaris.

[magoo_lc1]

Dam i think you and i nimble could possibly be the biggest guys on here. This has been a fun thread im sorry i brought up the wheel thing. I agree with nimble. for every pound you add to your yaris of wheel mass you add 8lbs of rotational mass. It will here your acceleration and we all agree that a yaris is not a drag racer by no means. I think the point being made the wheels you added took away what acceleration you had. Not being sarcastic what so ever. More of a mediator.

Our cars are going to be more fun on a back road then in a straightline and if this type of driving has interest to you, you took away that out of a tight corner accelration that makes small cars so fun. BUT and this is a big but,,,,its your car and if you want to roll 18s roll em brotha.

[ChinoCharles]

Clarification time I guess. Bare with me Nimble.

I'm not going to give you the "I don't care what other people do to their cars" speech. Been there, done that. With me so far?

I flamed you because bragging about the thoroughness of your Monday workout in a car forum is EASILY the gayest thing I have EVER seen.

EVER.

I would have left it at that... I'm generally a nice guy. Now you called me out... better yet, you threatened me. Second gayest thing I've ever seen. You're batting a thousand.

Third gayest thing I've ever seen? These types of dudes.



But my favorite...

What can I say, I guess I'm the black sheep because I don't condone the riceage of a Yaris.

Condone? Wait, so you're in charge of "condoning" mods now? Oh shit, I better file my paperwork!

If you see something you disagree with, sure, you're entitled to your two cents. Drop a post... tell the guy his mother is a whore... I don't care. We've all heard your opinion once. Past that, let the dude enjoy HIS fucking ride!

Don't pick pissing matches with me. In case they didn't tell you, I'm quite the pisser.

[Nimble]

Originally Posted by ChinoCharles

Clarification time I guess. Bare with me Nimble.

I'm not going to give you the "I don't care what other people do to their cars" speech. Been there, done that. With me so far?

I flamed you because bragging about the thoroughness of your Monday workout in a car forum is EASILY the gayest thing I have EVER seen.

EVER.

I would have left it at that... I'm generally a nice guy. Now you called me out... better yet, you threatened me. Second gayest thing I've ever seen. You're batting a thousand.

Third gayest thing I've ever seen? These types of dudes.

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But my favorite...



Condone? Wait, so you're in charge of "condoning" mods now? Oh shit, I better file my paperwork!

If you see something you disagree with, sure, you're entitled to your two cents. Drop a post... tell the guy his mother is a whore... I don't care. We've all heard your opinion once. Past that, let the dude enjoy HIS fucking ride!

Don't pick pissing matches with me. In case they didn't tell you, I'm quite the pisser.

You might be a pisser, but, it's like in nature, "only the strongest survive," and simply, I'm a notch up on you.....and no matter how much your piss is yellow and smells, that won't change my fist being square in your face. Ouch!

P.S.-You forgot the 4th gayest thing..."Blue Cold Cathodes." You will lose, keep trying though, keep on trying.

P.S.-the ladies don't seem to mind my kind of bb look, it takes more than 235 to look like Marcus in that pic.

And, since you asked about condoning mods, yes, I have to, and we are revoking your membership because no 1.5 liter will benefit in the slightest from "a header." (look at my user title)

BTW, I'm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRYEFO1RoZ4

Another for good measure. http://yougotburned.ytmnd.com/