5 speed resale value

[nookandcrannycar]

A tidbit re the 'manual transmission climate/mindset' ---- I was reading one of the New Car Auto Ad sections in today's Houston Chronicle and one dealer has a new 2013 Ford Focus S 4-door sedan with Ford Sync for $12,388.00 . ONE OF THE DISCOUNTS is "$1000 FOCUS MANUAL TRANSMISSION BONUS CASH" . The fine print basically = as follows: MSRP is 17,290.00 Less $1500.00 Retail Consumer Cash Less $1000 Focus Manual Transmission Bonus Cash Less $2402.00 (Dealer) Discount = 12,388.00 .

[bronsin]

Huh $5000 less than you can get a Yaris for in NJ!


$5000/$3.25 a gallon of gas = 1538 gallons of gas.

Which at 30 mpg is good for 46,000 miles!

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by bronsin

Huh $5000 less than you can get a Yaris for in NJ!


$5000/$3.25 a gallon of gas = 1538 gallons of gas.

Which at 30 mpg is good for 46,000 miles!

Yep....and Jerry on The Car Pro Show (broadcasts from Dallas, but I think syndicated throughout much of the U.S.) was talking about 'the fine print' today and how some dealers are being quite sneaky by listing discounts that not everyone qualifies for (Military, College Grad, LEO) and then are not requesting the proof (Badge, Diploma, etc) until the customer has been in the finance office for hours. The nice thing is the discounts on this Focus all apply to everyone (It still wouldn't motivate me to 'pull the trigger'...fat chance such a discount would ever be offered on a Yaris SE). The dealer is the second highest volume Ford dealer in the Houston Metro, so they might just look at this as 'a cost of driving traffic to their location'.

[swidd]

Originally Posted by nookandcrannycar

until the customer has been in the finance office for hours.

Why not just inform the dealer that you're walking out after 20 minutes?

[RedRide]

Originally Posted by swidd

Why not just inform the dealer that you're walking out after 20 minutes?

Exactly....... part of the game dealers play is to wear the customer down until they will agree to whatever .

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by swidd

Why not just inform the dealer that you're walking out after 20 minutes?

I agree, but some people are sheeple when it comes to buying cars (and in other areas of their lives).

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by RedRide

Exactly....... part of the game dealers play is to wear the customer down until they will agree to whatever .

^^^^^ If one had to boil down into one sentence what Jerry the Car Pro was trying to communicate re bringing the subject up in thee first place, it would be your sentence above.

He felt that this needed to be communicated to prompt more people to NOT give in and therefore NOT agree to whatever.

[Flipper_1938]

Rehab your knee and keep the manual trans.

[bronsin]

Originally Posted by RedRide

Exactly....... part of the game dealers play is to wear the customer down until they will agree to whatever .

I like to sit there and eat donuts and drink coffee and wear THEM out.

[tk1971]

Originally Posted by bronsin

I like to sit there and eat donuts and drink coffee and wear THEM out.

It also doesn't hurt to bring a screaming toddler who wants to go home and watch cartoons. Start driving people out of the dealership, and service speeds up right quick.

[Yaristeve]

Originally Posted by bronsin

I like to sit there and eat donuts and drink coffee and wear THEM out.

Yeah, then it just becomes a pissing match. Had that happen once but with the Finance Guy. By the time I was finally allowed to sign the contract, we both hated each other and we knew it.

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by bronsin

I like to sit there and eat donuts and drink coffee and wear THEM out.

[nookandcrannycar]

Originally Posted by tk1971

It also doesn't hurt to bring a screaming toddler who wants to go home and watch cartoons. Start driving people out of the dealership, and service speeds up right quick.

Brilliant! Screaming toddler = a universal experience that only generates judgement in people who have never spent any time around toddlers, and dealership employees know that. Re the nature of the product, how it will be used, and who will use it, it might not be prudent to leave kids out of the equation, and dealership employees know that as well. All they can do, if they feel the noise is disruptive, is to speed along the process as much as possible...which can work to the customer's advantage.

[Frank Necrosis]

Originally Posted by tk1971

It also doesn't hurt to bring a screaming toddler who wants to go home and watch cartoons. Start driving people out of the dealership, and service speeds up right quick.

Fantastic idea. Borrow someone's kid and feed them copious amounts of sugar then head to the dealer!


Buying my car was a massive waste of time. I asked a few questions about the car. The salesman wouldn't answer any of the questions directly. Each question required a trip to the manager's office. When I started getting to pricing, the return time from the manager's office took significantly longer. All in all, they wasted 4 hours of my time before I finally was able to get my questions answered and get an out to door price. I should of walked and went somewhere else, but I desperately needed a car.

[ron3]

SCREAMING TODDLER !!!!!!! I would not want to own one but it would be nice to borrow one occasionally lol.