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IllusionX · 07-26-2014, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by nookandcrannycar

Your needs/situation may differ from mine, which would contribute to having a different opinion

. Also, you know how to do all of your own repairs, so the simplicity angle might not carry as much weight as a factor as it does for me.

It also just occurred to me that harsh winters (the case for both of you) might contribute to a preference for power windows.

I actually don't care about it in the winter. Windows stay closed all the time.

But in the summer, being fuel efficient, I do not use the AC during my short commute to work. And you see, if you buy a barebones car, it probably doesn't have AC anyways, so you want to open that passenger window.

nookandcrannycar · 07-26-2014, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by IllusionX

I actually don't care about it in the winter. Windows stay closed all the time.

But in the summer, being fuel efficient, I do not use the AC during my short commute to work. And you see, if you buy a barebones car, it probably doesn't have AC anyways, so you want to open that passenger window.

Good point re the Canadian market. In the U.S. the Yaris (don't know about the ECHO) has always come standard with A/C, even on the most stripped model.

nookandcrannycar · 07-26-2014, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by IllusionX

If I were to get a new car. It better not have crank windows.
It's such an annoyance having to crawl over to close/open the passenger side...

I'm not talking about the locks, just the windows. If you are driving alone, why would you need to roll the passenger window down ?....unless you were parallel parked on a busy, narrow street trying to have a conversation with someone standing on the sidewalk. If you have a passenger, the passenger could roll the window down.

You have a sedan. I can see THAT (in addition to having a family) creating scenarios re ergonomics that would make having hand crank windows inconvenient. With a 3-door, and just myself to consider, I have a different take. Some other Yarisworld members do share my preference for hand crank windows. I feel power windows are just, especially on a Yaris, an unnecessary item that takes away from the simplicity. However, the main reason I prefer the hand crank windows was revealed to me when I had a rental Yaris LE in February. I like to drive (most of the time) with the driver door window cracked open ever so slightly. With the power windows, It is impossible to adjust that opening to my desired point. The window is either all the way up, or the opening is too wide.

nookandcrannycar · 07-26-2014, 12:25 AM

^^^^^ My

re no hand crank windows available for the Canadian market in 2015 = I don't think this bodes well for potential USDM availability.

Kalispel · 07-26-2014, 02:08 AM

I've had bad luck with power windows, and prefer manual cranking windows myself. Same goes for automatic transmissions versus manual transmissions.

428CobraJet · 07-26-2014, 08:06 AM

Has the Canadian market Yaris been identical to the US market car in the past?

nookandcrannycar · 07-26-2014, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 428CobraJet

Has the Canadian market Yaris been identical to the US market car in the past?

No. See post #90 (I already knew this, but it had slipped my mind). A/C = not standard on the base model in Canada, but is in the United States.

428CobraJet · 07-26-2014, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by nookandcrannycar

No. See post #90 (I already knew this, but it had slipped my mind). A/C = not standard on the base model in Canada, but is in the United States.

So they'll get a 6 speed and we won't?

nookandcrannycar · 07-26-2014, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 428CobraJet

So they'll get a 6 speed and we won't?

????? Good question.

428CobraJet · 07-26-2014, 12:19 PM

Car and Driver speaketh
http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...-and-info-news

nookandcrannycar · 07-26-2014, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 428CobraJet

Car and Driver speaketh
http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...-and-info-news

Great find!

Revised clutch -

No hand crank windows -

Available in August -

matti · 07-26-2014, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by nookandcrannycar

Great find!

Revised clutch -

No hand crank windows -

Available in August -

Bummer on the windows.

nookandcrannycar · 07-27-2014, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by matti

Bummer on the windows.

Yep. One of the main reasons I crack the window open a bit is related to the airtight nature of the Yaris. With the windows closed, air doesn't circulate fast enough to suit me. One of the reasons I want that opening to be ever so slight is that I don't want a bee or wasp to fly inside my Yaris. Until a couple of months ago, the last time I got stung was when I was 13 and I was allergic and had to go to a hospital. A couple of months ago that 'drought/gap' ended when I was stung by a wasp in my backyard. Thank goodness my friend (who is a nurse) was over, so she administered professional treatment for my sting (an easy routine thing from her perspective). With power windows I could try leaving the passenger window open a bit (a bigger crack, as hand crank allows for more minute adjustments)...but at least I'd have a bit more space between me and the wasp or bee if one flew inside the car

.

Kal-El · 07-27-2014, 11:01 AM

Pricing is more and more becoming a killer of sub-compacts. The Yaris will now be starting in the $15K range. That should not be the cheapest version you can buy on a tiny car. Most buyers go look at the window stickers in the Corolla and see it only a grand or two more to start and guess what, the Yaris doesn't stand a chance. Unless you are one of the few that really just prefer the smaller car/hatchback style. Most buyers want the most bang for the buck though.

If you compare the top Yaris (nearly $19K), and then realize you are getting close to a new Camry, then you realize why the Camry sold 40,000 units last month vs a few thousand Yaris's sold.

To make a Yaris really compelling, it should be able to be sold for say $13K to start in today's market. But unfortunately, Toyota economics doesn't support that possibility.

nookandcrannycar · 07-26-2014, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 428CobraJet

Car and Driver speaketh
http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...-and-info-news

CTScott , does any of the wording in the linked Car and Driver article give any indication to you whether or not your cruise control kit would work on a USDM 2015 Yaris L ?

Kalispel · 07-26-2014, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 428CobraJet

Car and Driver speaketh
http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...-and-info-news

Looks like a nice upgrade in styling and features over the current Yaris incarnation in the USA. I wouldn't waste any time, however, pulling the ugly black/silver alloy wheels off that pictured SE, selling them, and buying some decent looking wheels in their place.

nookandcrannycar · 07-26-2014, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Kalispel

Looks like a nice upgrade in styling and features over the current Yaris incarnation in the USA. I wouldn't waste any time, however, pulling the ugly black/silver alloy wheels off that pictured SE, selling them, and buying some decent looking wheels in their place.

Yeah, I don't like that shade re alloy wheels. If the past holds true, those would only be on the SE.

*kimona* · 07-27-2014, 12:19 PM

^ ^^ ^

A 4-door Yaris LE automatic has a window of $17300. There is little profit in the car and no customer incentives... so you won't get much of a deal.

Here in Southern California with customer incentives, you can buy a Corolla L automatic for $16745, a Prius C one for $17745, and a Camry LE automatic for $18745.

No wonder the Yaris is a hard sell!

When I got my oil changed last week, I didn't see a new 2014 Yaris on the lot. A salesman said he hadn't seen one since he started over 2 months ago. But, there were 2 new 2013 4-door Yaris L automatics!

07-26-2014, 08:06 AM	#6
428CobraJet View User's Garage Drives: '09 Yaris 3dr, 13 F150rcsb 5.0 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: downtown Houston Posts: 259	Has the Canadian market Yaris been identical to the US market car in the past? __________________ You are what you drive.

07-26-2014, 12:19 PM	#10
428CobraJet View User's Garage Drives: '09 Yaris 3dr, 13 F150rcsb 5.0 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: downtown Houston Posts: 259	Car and Driver speaketh http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...-and-info-news __________________ You are what you drive.

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