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Old 07-27-2014, 12:50 PM   #1
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^ ^^ ^

A 4-door Yaris LE automatic has a window of $17300. There is little profit in the car and no customer incentives... so you won't get much of a deal.

Here in Southern California with customer incentives, you can buy a Corolla L automatic for $16745, a Prius C one for $17745, and a Camry LE automatic for $18745.

No wonder the Yaris is a hard sell!

When I got my oil changed last week, I didn't see a new 2014 Yaris on the lot. A salesman said he hadn't seen one since he started over 2 months ago. But, there were 2 new 2013 4-door Yaris L automatics!
Unless motivated by medical issues, I guess I'll never understand the desire for cars with automatic transmissions. I used to live in Newport Beach, and I never felt the 'hand of rabid environmentalism' (which might affect a car buying decision) the way I did in the SF Bay Area. Attitudes would naturally have an effect on inventory.
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Old 07-27-2014, 02:25 PM   #2
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When I was younger, I enjoyed driving a stick; the car performed better, I felt I was in control to some degree, and I possibly saved fuel when I wasn't driving like there was no tomorrow. This isn't the case today; automatics perform exceptionally well and very often use less fuel than a stick. I love the Yaris 4-speed automatic. I think its a brilliant piece of work! I have absolutely no desire to ever drive a stick again.
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Old 07-27-2014, 02:36 PM   #3
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When I was younger, I enjoyed driving a stick; the car performed better, I felt I was in control to some degree, and I possibly saved fuel when I wasn't driving like there was no tomorrow. This isn't the case today; automatics perform exceptionally well and very often use less fuel than a stick. I love the Yaris 4-speed automatic. I think its a brilliant piece of work! I have absolutely no desire to ever drive a stick again.
one can go all over fuelly and fuel economy.gov and see that the reality is still that the sticks are doing better in the real worl.

in the case of the yaris, which doesn't even use a dual clutch "automatic", it is even more pronounced, with a vast majority of people getting 40+ mpg's are driving sticks.

cvt's are getting pretty efficient, but they suck more life out of driving that even the old automatics.
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Old 07-27-2014, 03:42 PM   #4
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cvt's are getting pretty efficient, but they suck more life out of driving that even the old automatics.
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Old 07-27-2014, 04:19 PM   #5
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There's still numerous CVT's on the market that have proved troublesome in reliability. No thanks. I hope automakers continue building traditional automatics. At least until CVT's become bullet proof. There are some that perform very well though, such as the one in the new Accord. Although it's reliability isn't proven for the long haul.
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Old 07-27-2014, 03:41 PM   #6
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When I was younger, I enjoyed driving a stick; the car performed better, I felt I was in control to some degree, and I possibly saved fuel when I wasn't driving like there was no tomorrow. This isn't the case today; automatics perform exceptionally well and very often use less fuel than a stick. I love the Yaris 4-speed automatic. I think its a brilliant piece of work! I have absolutely no desire to ever drive a stick again.
2 main reasons I prefer a stick (other than just liking the driving experience, and intentionally avoiding the MPG angle....which is almost like politics () in that rarely will anyone change anyone else's opinion):

1. I don't like the idea of not being able to push and compression start the car if it won't 'turn over'.

2. In my experience, a babied automatic won't last as long as a babied clutch and manual transmission (the clutch and tranny in my Yaris have lasted a bit over 100,000 miles past the longest I've been able to get an automatic transmission to last (in an Acura).
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Old 07-27-2014, 04:50 PM   #7
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The CVT is good in concept. As a gearhead...its not for me.
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Old 08-09-2014, 04:35 PM   #8
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Hopefully some new colors will circulate into the US. Yellows, oranges, purples, lime greens....let's get creative already. The Yaris is supposed to be a fun urban commuter and an entry level car. Give it some personality already.
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Old 08-10-2014, 05:13 PM   #9
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Hopefully some new colors will circulate into the US. Yellows, oranges, purples, lime greens....let's get creative already. The Yaris is supposed to be a fun urban commuter and an entry level car. Give it some personality already.
No Kidding! Green, Yellow, Orange...what is with the B O R I N G car colors the past freakin' decade?

Was searching online and found a bunch of 2015's through this site:

http://southeast.buyatoyota.com/yaris

They show a 2014 Red 3 Door Yaris L (like my 2013) & a 2015 White 3 Door Yaris LE - good view of the new front end. I love mine still, it's getting that 'Vintage Older Model' look to it ...


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Old 08-10-2014, 05:40 PM   #10
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No Kidding! Green, Yellow, Orange...what is with the B O R I N G car colors the past freakin' decade?

Was searching online and found a bunch of 2015's through this site:

http://southeast.buyatoyota.com/yaris

They show a 2014 Red 3 Door Yaris L (like my 2013) & a 2015 White 3 Door Yaris LE - good view of the new front end. I love mine still, it's getting that 'Vintage Older Model' look to it ...


The look and profile of those rear taillights (and bumper in general) is vastly improved in the newer 2015 model. The front headlights and bumper is also a big improvement in styling. I'm thinking that the 2015 Yaris will easily be the best looking car in its class, overall - and much nicer looking than the awful-styled and cheap-looking new Corolla.
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Old 08-10-2014, 09:01 PM   #11
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No Kidding! Green, Yellow, Orange...what is with the B O R I N G car colors the past freakin' decade?

Was searching online and found a bunch of 2015's through this site:

http://southeast.buyatoyota.com/yaris

They show a 2014 Red 3 Door Yaris L (like my 2013) & a 2015 White 3 Door Yaris LE - good view of the new front end. I love mine still, it's getting that 'Vintage Older Model' look to it ...


the front of the 15 looks like it belongs on an entirely different car....and the chrome makes this giant "x". it just overwhelms the rest of the car.

it reminds me of a car (the name of which I wont utter) where it looks like designers of two different cars slapped it all together and called it a refresh.

the interior, at least what had been previously been shown, looks to be a slight improvement. however, the front grill and bumper treatment is a big mess, imo. they should have saved it for when the next generation comes around and the rest of the sheet metal was changed.
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Old 08-10-2014, 05:38 PM   #12
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No manual trans on their first boat.

What's a dealer fee?
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Old 08-10-2014, 05:44 PM   #13
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No manual trans on their first boat.

What's a dealer fee?
I would imagine manuals will be few and far between...
Dealer fee, not sure what it includes, to me
it's always been perceived as a way for them to
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Old 08-10-2014, 06:06 PM   #14
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No manual trans on their first boat.

What's a dealer fee?
A dealer fee is theft. They claim it is to cover paperwork, but it really is not necessary. Same thing for the destination charge. Flat out theft.
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Old 08-10-2014, 08:34 PM   #15
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A dealer fee is theft. They claim it is to cover paperwork, but it really is not necessary. Same thing for the destination charge. Flat out theft.

Agreed!
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Old 08-10-2014, 05:47 PM   #16
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I'll have to look for a rear view...I can see from these photos it is different...
Front end is growing on me...I'm happy (Very) with my 2013 L - especially the crank windows!
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I'll have to look for a rear view...I can see from these photos it is different...
Front end is growing on me...I'm happy (Very) with my 2013 L - especially the crank windows!
Part of the appeal of possibly buying a 2007-2011 Yaris (instead of a 2015), for me, is that it will easier to find a manual transmission (and I can get crank windows with that). Plus, I do like the basic, curvy "bubble" styling of those years a lot also.
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Part of the appeal of possibly buying a 2007-2011 Yaris (instead of a 2015), for me, is that it will easier to find a manual transmission (and I can get crank windows with that). Plus, I do like the basic, curvy "bubble" styling of those years a lot also.
The bubble, egg shape as some say, looks great. I (sort of) like that body style better, yet we wanted to buy brand new, so the 2013's were out and that's what I got. Like the DASHBOARD layout much better, so that is a PLUS for me.
If I found a deal on an older 2 door Yaris no matter what transmission or color, I'd get it. Wouldn't mind having a 2nd one
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