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04-09-2016, 10:54 AM | #1 |
Drives: '15 Dodge Challenger Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Grimsby, Ontario
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new CAI issues (too lean)
So i installed a Cold Air Intake(CPT) and a nice oiled filter + hydroshield(Injen), but after 5 hours of driving the car now continually trips the Check Engine Light saying my mixture is too lean.
I have researched a few things First thing it could be is It says maybe if the filter is over-oiled then it could gum up the MAF sensor so it should be cleaned. What would be the best way for going about cleaning the MAF sensor without risking damage to the sensor? Second thing it could be is It says it could be caused by a vacuum leak in the system, I have checked all my connections and they are sung with no apparent leaks. My brake booster however is shot and after purchasing a replacement from a scrapper i looked up how much of a pain it is to replace, being such a small car it does not really need the booster as I have been driving without it for at least 2 years now. I ran my little bluetooth scanner using torque on my phone and the vac pressure sits at about 25 idle, 15 cruising and can go as low as -1.5 under heavy acceleration. I have heard it should never drop below 1. Would there be an easy way to block off the hose to the brake booster or should i just take the whole day and rip apart my car to replace it and hope i do it properly? Car is still running okay and has a very nice front-end growl to it under acceleration which i like a lot, just annoying the CEL is coming on and I would like to get the issue addressed hopefully this week. I will be adding pictures possibly later today of the new intake |
04-09-2016, 11:01 AM | #2 |
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Use MAF cleaner to clean it. This can be found at a local auto parts store.
Easiest way to check for vacuum leaks is to use your scanner and view long and short term fuel trims. If the values drastically change under 2500rpm compared to idle then it's likely a vacuum leak. Use an incense stick to find where the leak is. It is likely due to one of these 2 issues. I don't know how vacuum would ever get to -1.5, technically that is going into boost which is impossible in a non boosted car regardless of a vacuum leak or not. (somone correct me if i'm wrong)
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04-09-2016, 11:06 AM | #3 | |
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I was unsure how i was getting readings below 0 as well, but that is the info i was picking up from torque at least. |
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04-09-2016, 11:17 AM | #4 |
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and it was inches of mercury, not PSI. here is a screenshot from yesterday
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04-09-2016, 06:19 PM | #5 |
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What is the ID of the intake you have? If it deviates from the stock size it will mess up the MAF reading. Bigger pipe = less air velocity = a reading too low on the MAF and not enough fuel delivered.
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04-10-2016, 06:36 PM | #6 |
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get an intake that is actually R&D'd for your car. Bluevitz-rs nailed it. I recommend K&N, Injen. NOT EBAY
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04-11-2016, 11:09 AM | #7 |
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it is a 2.25" ID on the intake. I read that the evap sensor will compensate for slightly different pipe diameters as long as the ID isn't anything waaay different. I wasn't prepared to spend a few hundred on an intake for my car. The injen intake system appears to be approx 2 to 2.25" at the MAF sensor from what i can tell
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04-11-2016, 12:38 PM | #8 |
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So the aftermarket intake pipe is actually 2.01" @ the MAF sensor and the stock one was 2.17" @ the MAF sensor. cleaned the sensor with some SensorKleen and it works perfectly now, cleaned the icky throttle body while I was there and fixed the rough idle too.
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04-11-2016, 01:08 PM | #9 |
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My next thing to suggest was cleaning your MAF sensor. A dirty one will cause a LEAN condition too.
A smaller pipe will make the car run RICHER and could potentially hurt fuel economy. But will make it run much richer in open loop. |
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